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Giants not engaged in active extension talks with Pablo Sandoval

May 31, 2014, 11:05 PM EDT

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Chris Cotillo of MLB Daily Dish reports that the Giants are not actively engaged in extension talks with third baseman Pablo Sandoval. The last time this subject was broached, just over a month ago, reports indicated that Sandoval was still seeking at least $100 million.

Sandoval was off to an abysmal start to the season, posting a .526 OPS through May 10. Since then, he has caught fire, slashing .389/.400/.708 with six home runs and 19 RBI entering Saturday’s action against the Cardinals. Still, the early slump along with his injury history and weight issues have likely given the Giants pause.

Sandoval, 27, is earning $8.25 million in the final year of a three-year extension signed in January 2012. He can become a free agent after the season.

  1. spyder9669 - May 31, 2014 at 11:23 PM

    He’s gone. Already paying Pence, Bumgarner and Cain $100 mill each. The next $100 mill they dish out must go to a superstar bat. That’s not Panda.

    • dan1111 - Jun 1, 2014 at 2:48 AM

      Sandoval is a valuable player and would be a good re-signing at somewhere less than $100 million. It’s doubtful anyone will pay him that much, unless he has a monster season. I wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up returning to the Giants, albeit for less money than he’s asking now.

      The Giants have a nice offensive core assembled and don’t need a superstar bat. Even if Pablo never comes close to repeating his 2011 season, his solid numbers since then would be more than adequate to round out their line-up.

      • dan1111 - Jun 1, 2014 at 2:57 AM

        I take the first part of this back, after remembering the contracts Jacoby Ellsbury and Shin-Soo Choo just signed. Both are much older than Sandoval. Ellsbury had more injuries than Sandoval, while Shin-Soo Choo is a huge defensive liability. Yet, both got far more than $100 million. Panda will, too.

        Still, I don’t see what the Giants are a bad fit. If they are not willing to spend more money, then ok, but signing a “superstar bat” would cost just as much.

    • jblokhed - Jun 1, 2014 at 5:21 PM

      And The Giants are a mint, despite their occassional cries of “poor boy.” They sell out or near sell out every game with very expensive ticket prices. They have lucrative local TV and radio contracts, and they sell a ton of crappy merch (a whole menagerie of stupid animal hats for example.) Yes they still service the debt on the stadium, but that’s winding down and when paid will result in a huge asset toward the overall value of thr team.

    • mpzz - Jun 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM

      Panda, when he’s right, is a better overall hitter and fielder than someone like Pence. The problem is figuring how much of the time he will be “right”.

  2. myleschristiancopeland - May 31, 2014 at 11:59 PM

    Reblogged this on Around The Base.

  3. illuminancer - Jun 1, 2014 at 12:26 AM

    The season’s not even halfway over. Pence’s extension was finialized two games before the end of the season. There’s plenty of time to see if Pablo can stay relatively hot.

  4. yahmule - Jun 1, 2014 at 12:36 AM

    He’s not getting nine nine figures from anybody, although I suppose it doesn’t hurt to ask.

    • senioreditor2 - Jun 1, 2014 at 2:46 AM

      He will EASILY get it from multiple teams

      • sportsfan18 - Jun 1, 2014 at 7:41 AM

        Sadly,some team probably will…

        But, during prime years, his OPS+ is trending the WRONG way

        Age 24 season OPS+ 155
        Age 25 season OPS+ 123
        Age 26 season OPS+ 118
        Age 27 season OPS+ 110 (though this season is far from over yet).

        Now, if his OPS+ were the opposite of those, going up each year until now and really that should be expected at the ages listed, it would be a no brainer to give him that much money.

        Slugging % in age 24 season .552%
        Slugging % in age 25 season .447%
        Slugging % in age 26 season .417% (uh, that’s NOT slugging folks)
        Slugging % in age 27 season .429% (though this season is far from over yet)

        Age 24 OPS .909
        Age 25 OPS .789
        Age 26 OPS .758
        Age 27 OPS .730 (though season is far from over yet)

        A player doing what he as done does NOT deserve a big money long term deal…

        But teams don’t ever learn… it’s funny money to them

      • dan1111 - Jun 1, 2014 at 9:52 AM

        @sportsfan18, I wouldn’t make too much of that trend. Basically, he had one great season and has been solidly above average since then. I would expect him to continue to be an above average player, not suddenly forget how to hit in the next couple of years.

      • sportsfan18 - Jun 1, 2014 at 11:39 AM

        I agree that he is above average, but not all that much and it depends on how much one pays for him… that is the real key. your points are valid.

        if it’s $20 million a season, then no way… i know salaries keep going up but $20 million for a player who is a bit above average is too much money.

        I mean, I could go to a good, decent restaurant and see a nice dish of food and think THAT is worth $70… then I find out they are charging $250 for that plate of food. And the food IS good but it is NOT $250 good to ME.

        This player is good, but he is not $100 million plus good, even though he’ll most likely get it just like people order the $250 meal…

        to me, it’s less about this player than the overall way they get contracts…

        Look at Jose Reyes and his numbers and the deal he got.


        Age 23 season OPS+115
        Age 24 season OPS+ 102
        Age 25 season OPS+ 119
        Age 26 season OPS+ 101
        Age 27 season OPS+ 103
        Age 28 season OPS+ 144 (a GREAT season, breakout but no history that he’ll stay there).
        Age 29 season OPS+109
        Age 30 season OPS+ 113
        Age 31 season OPS+ 101 (but season has a long way to go).

        OH, Reyes is OWED $22 million each of the next three seasons AFTER this season… plus a $4 million buyout for the year after that so he is STILL going to receive another $70 million after this season is done…

        Jose has had ONE (1) season that was worth that amount of money.

        Looking at his stats, others besides just OPS+ shows that he’s just a bit above average.

        Now, the Dodgers have to decide what to do with Hanley Ramirez…

        It isn’t about money as the Dodgers have tons of it… but it’s nice to NOT overpay once in a while too for things. They will OVERPAY for HanRam…

        Hanley’s OPS+ since 2010

        2010 age 27 season 126
        2011 age 28 season 95 (below league average)
        2012 age 29 season 105
        2013 age 30 season 189 (a FANTASTIC season)
        2014 age 31 season 129 (so far as season isn’t half done yet)

        he’ll be 32 next year and unless he kicks it into gear the rest of this season, he’ll have had one GREAT season in his last FIVE (5) years.

        Why do teams pay contracts going forward for 4 to 5 yrs or so for ONE great year out of the previous 4 or 5 yrs?

        I mean, Hanley was a bit above average for 4 of the 5 yrs and yet due to that ONE great year, he’ll get paid GREAT money for all the years of his new contract…

        Just like Jose Reyes did.

        Panda, as you said, IS good, above average… but Panda does NOT deserve big bucks and if we were to revisit his stats 5 yrs from now I’m pretty confident that he’ll have had one great season and then some good ones yet he’s wanting to be paid like he’s going to put up GREAT seasons year after year for the team that signs him and he WON’T put up five great consecutive seasons…

        Very few do that, great season after great season. Albert Pujols put up 10 of them in a row to begin his career…

      • dan1111 - Jun 1, 2014 at 5:10 PM

        @sportsfan18, agreed that Sandoval should not be paid based on his one good season. But if he can put up a 115 OPS+ and continue to play decent defense at 3B going forward, he is probably a $100,000,000 player in today’s market.

  5. spyder9669 - Jun 1, 2014 at 6:13 AM

    I’d much rather they make a play for Nelson Cruz on a 3 yr deal or Stanton/Chris Davis on a longer term deal. Guys I can trust alot more than Sandoval.

  6. giantsninerswarriors - Jun 1, 2014 at 9:25 PM

    Panda is going to get his 9-figure contract, and the Giants are likely going to be the team to give it to him. The fact that the Giants have highest winning percentage in baseball is going to completely dictate Pablo’s contract status. Sabean won’t have the stones to trade him at the deadline unless the team absolutely collapses, and I get the feeling that the Giants would rather overpay him than let him walk in free agency.

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