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Manny Machado suspended for five games, Fernando Abad fined as a result of Sunday’s bat-throwing incident

Jun 10, 2014, 1:54 PM EST

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Major League Baseball has announced a five-game suspension for Orioles third baseman Manny Machado as a result of his bat-throwing antics in the Orioles-Athletics game on Sunday. He has also received an undisclosed fine. Fernando Abad, the A’s pitcher who threw at Machado, has received an undisclosed fine but no suspension.

Tim Brown of Yahoo was the first to report that the discipline was coming down. Brown says Machado will appeal the suspension.

Reaction? It seems light to me. The last time someone was suspended for throwing a bat the way Machado did was in 2002 when the Red Sox’ Trot Nixon helicoptered a bat at Devil Rays pitcher Ryan Rupe. Nixon got four games. Thing is, however, since 2002 the suspensions for on-field things like beanballs and starting fights have gone up a few games. In light of that, one would think that inflation would hit something as severe as bat-throwing a bit harder than it appears to have.

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  1. scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    Any word on the pitcher who intentionally threw at Machado? Or does no one care about that since apparently Machado is the new Devil in baseball?

    • beachnbaseball - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:03 PM

      Abad is being finds. No suspension.

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:07 PM

        So it’s ok to throw a ball at a player but not a bat? Sounds like typical MLB logic to me. If you ask me, Machado certainly was out of line and 5 games does seem very light for his actions. However, he is far from the only one who has done wrong here. This nonsense about him hitting a catcher on the swing, and them throwing at him as retaliation was a gigantic pile of nonsense and further proof the “unwritten rules” needs to go. The players have proven time and time again they are incapable of policing themselves.

      • shawndc04 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:34 PM

        @scoutsaysweitersisabust

        >>So it’s ok to throw a ball at a player but not a bat?<<

        So if the bat, which he apparently could not aim, flies in the stands and clocks your kid, you'd have no problem?

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:38 PM

        Shawndc04, clearly you are not reading my comments completely as I have explained several times here how Machado was out of line. My issue is not that Machado is being suspended, it’s that he’s the only one.

      • beachnbaseball - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:42 PM

        “fined”. Sorry.

    • jrbdmb - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:05 PM

      So are we going to suspend any pitcher who works inside? I think if he had really wanted to hit Machado he would have done so.

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:09 PM

        To say that the pitcher was simply working inside is as laughable as saying the bat slipped out of Machado’s hands. Don’t try to act like that pitch wasn’t intentional, we are all more intelligent than that.

      • historiophiliac - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:13 PM

        Oh, please.

      • yahmule - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM

        The guy threw right at the knee he had surgery on. Obviously Manny has acted like an out-of-control asshole for the last week, but to say Abad wasn’t retaliating, too, is simply nonsense.

      • emdash01 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:44 PM

        Shouldn’t Chen be suspended too, then, for throwing at Donaldson? If they’re suspending for intentionally hit batters in that series, it should be both Chen and Abad.

    • realgone2 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:06 PM

      Of course not. Especially if it’s good old Craig penning the article. If say one of his many hated sports writers said that Machado was being a jerk and not playing the game “the right way” then Craig would be saying that the writer was overreacting. It should be expected from this wannabe.

    • sophiethegreatdane - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:22 PM

      Can we all — Craig included — stop clutching at our pearls for a second? 5 games seems about right for what he did — or tried to do. I’m not defending Manny — quite to the contrary, I’m very disappointed in his lack of comportment this weekend. But you can’t tack on extra suspension days for anything other than the bat-throwing incident, even though people here want him suspended for more than just that. You can’t suspend him for acting like a punk (which he was). If that were the case, everyone jumping on Manny here would have a player or two from their favorite team suspended immediately.

      No one got hit, no one got hurt, and while it’s a story that helps people hit their outrage quotas for the week, ultimately, nothing really happened here. Upset kid throws bat, hits no one, no injuries. Kid gets suspended for a week of baseball, and now it’s time to move on.

      • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:52 PM

        Sheesh. Can’t criticize anyone nowadays.

      • missingjimmyjohnsonsince1994 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:53 PM

        That’s like giving someone no punishment for a DUI because nobody got hurt, even though someone’s life was put at risk, or career in this situation.

        Good try

      • historiophiliac - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:53 PM

        We really have to come up with a male equivalent of pearl-clutching. Ladies aren’t the only ones who get the vapors…obviously.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:06 PM

        No one got hit, no one got hurt, and while it’s a story that helps people hit their outrage quotas for the week, ultimately, nothing really happened here.

        So you only advocate punishing people for the outcomes of their decisions, not just for the intent? If a player gets drunk and drives, but doesn’t hit anyone, then it’s ok?

      • sophiethegreatdane - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM

        @missingjimmy: “That’s like giving someone no punishment for a DUI because nobody got hurt, even though someone’s life was put at risk, or career in this situation.

        Good try”
        ________________________

        Where did I say Manny deserved no punishment? Please show me that.

        Nice try on your end.

      • sophiethegreatdane - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:58 AM

        @citationneeded: “So you only advocate punishing people for the outcomes of their decisions, not just for the intent? If a player gets drunk and drives, but doesn’t hit anyone, then it’s ok?”

        ——————–
        Couple quick points:

        1. Not once did I say Manny should not be suspended. I said that 5 gaves seems appropriate, and if you actually look at what he did, it is. A pitcher who throws intentionally at a batter gets a 5 game suspension, normally. But really, it’s a one game suspension, as the pitcher only missed a single game.

        Manny didn’t hit anyone, and he’s getting a 5x suspension over a pitcher in a similar situation. I don’t advocate what Manny did, but I am saying that overall, people are over-reacting to what is being perceived as “light discipline” from MLB.

        2. “So you only advocate punishing people for the outcomes of their decisions, not just for the intent?”

        Well, yes. This is exactly how society, and our laws, work. If you get caught drunk driving, there is an associated set of penalties. If you kill someone drunk driving there is a whole other level of penalties. There is a clear difference between attempted murder and murder. There is a clear difference between driving 5 miles over the speed limit, and 50 miles over the speed limit.

        Manny threw a bat, which is stupid, irresponsible, and dangerous. But Manny did not hit anyone with the bat, and should not get a suspension in line with someone who did.

    • paperlions - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM

      Well then, I assume you also want Chen suspended for throwing up-and-in to Donaldson on Friday, hitting him on the second such pitch.

      Throwing at guys is stupid, but at least Abad was throwing at his legs instead of up near the head.

      • Eutaw's Finest - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:29 PM

        That’s a cop out- Abad threw AT MANNY’S SURGICALLY REPAIRED KNEES. Chen did not actually aim for Donaldson’s head and if you think he did you’re out of line. That pitch elevated as it approached the plate, not a beaner straight for the noggin. But there is no doubt in my mind Abad aimed for those knees of Manny’s.

      • paperlions - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:43 PM

        Uh huh. If his knee is good enough to play baseball the last couple of months then referring to it is “surgically repaired” is hyperbole. The knee is fine…it won’t get hurt by a pitched ball any more or less than any other knee.

        Chen didn’t throw one pitch up and in to Donaldson, he threw two….and I didn’t say he was throwing at his head, I said he was throwing up and in….where missing a little can have a tragic result….as opposed to throwing at the legs, which is unlikely to be fatal.

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:32 PM

        Yes I do. I’ve been on record here many times stating that throwing at ANY player ANY time is dangerous, reckless, unacceptable and should be eliminated from the game. PERIOD. Just because the player who did so was on a team that I root for does not change my opinion. Everyone involved here was wrong, and my point is that they ALL should be punished and punishment should be fair and uniform across the board. Why is it ok for this pitcher to thow at Manny, but not ok for another pitcher to throw at another player in some other game? Two wrongs does not make a right. Baseballs are projectile objects and in these cases are being used as weapons and someone needs to knock it the hell off already. Players have proven time and time again they are incapable of policing themselves, and only serve to provoke, instigate, and escalate a bad situation.

      • paperlions - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:46 PM

        Approved for consistency and logic.

        Completely agree….especially that last statement…that is perfectly accurate.

      • vexmachine - Jun 13, 2014 at 2:44 PM

        Chen hitting donaldson wa sunintentional. The pitches near his head were the third and the 8th pitch with a 3-2 count.

        Abad was aiming at a player which is against the rules. Chen hit a player which is not. Abad should have been suspended as well as Machado

    • clydeserra - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:07 PM

      Any word on Chen, who threw at Donaldson with one pitch then hit him on the shoulder?

      Or do you think that its OK to throw at someone’s head because they tagged your thirdbaseman too hard?

      But yeah, Abad threw towards the legs, and didn’t even hit Machado on either pitch, so I guess he should be punished more than Machado.

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:23 PM

        Obviously you aren’t reading any of my comments, because I’ve clearly answered your questions many times, but go ahead and put false words into my mount if it makes you feel better.

      • clydeserra - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:40 PM

        I hadn’t when I wrote my comment.

    • sabatimus - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:12 PM

      I guess you didn’t read the whole article?

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:24 PM

        I did. The article was updated after I first commented. In it’s original incarnation, the title referred only to Machado, and no mention of Abad was included in the body.

    • boogerhill - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:29 PM

      Butterball Abad should be suspended! He’s the instigator who threw at a guys knee after he had surgery on it!

    • boogerhill - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:31 PM

      Butterball Abad needs a suspension!

  2. thatsnuckinfuts - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    Appeal? No No that never works
    Demand a trial by combat Manny

    • bh192012 - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:09 PM

      Give Machado some bats and Abad some balls and combat must occur at a distance of at least 60 feet.

  3. proudlycanadian - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    I wonder if he plans an appeal.

    • proudlycanadian - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:06 PM

      I should have read the entire story; however if he is sincere in his apologies, he should forget about appealing. By appealing, he would give Baltimore another reason to demote him in order to force him to grow up.

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:20 PM

        His appeal though, as put so well by @Olsen_Don on Twitter, “is to delay the Orioles losing a key member during a crucial home stand, not to state he did nothing wrong.”

      • proudlycanadian - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:25 PM

        “a key member”? I understand that the only thing he has been hitting lately, is the opposing catcher.

      • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:23 PM

        Crucial home stand? Somene should remind Machado that it’s June.

      • paperlions - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:26 PM

        5 games is 5 games, is there some horrible team they play soon for which his contributions are less important?

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:36 PM

        Not my words, just passing along the explanation given for why he is appealing.

        The next 5 games have the Orioles facing the Redsox and the Blue Jays, two tough division rivals. They have a road trip coming up against the White Sox followed by Tampa Bay. Seems that’s a more opportune time to miss. Delaying the trip also give the team time to plan a replacement.

        You don’t think a team’s starting third baseman is a key member of the team?

  4. stichey - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    I expected that he would received more days too given that as part of Machado’s weekend tantrums, on Friday night, following the “hard tag” from Donaldson, it looked like Machado was trying to throw his helmet at Donaldson as he fell to the ground (but he missed with that too).

    • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:04 PM

      Not to mention the two backswings that hit Norris.

    • beachnbaseball - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:04 PM

      5 games is too light. Appealing is a major mistake. I hope MLB upholds it with no reduction.

    • karlkolchak - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:05 PM

      Sounds like punk Manny can’t hit anything this year.

      • beachnbaseball - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:48 PM

        He had no trouble hitting Norris.

    • sophiethegreatdane - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:27 PM

      @stichey: you can’t suspend someone for throwing “tantrums” as you called it. Damn near every team would have a player suspended every day for that kind of nonsense. MLB can only suspend Manny for the bat-throwing, which they did.

      I didn’t like his behavior any more than anyone else did, but let’s all calm down for a second and grab a big slice of reality.

    • Eutaw's Finest - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM

      “it looked like Machado was trying to throw his helmet at Donaldson as he fell to the ground (but he missed with that too).”

      Looked like isn’t sufficient to warrant a suspension. See Abad throwing “what looked like” intentionally at Manny’s knees.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:53 PM

        Let’s not mince words, he intentionally threw his helmet at Donaldson. Speaking of which, was he ejected after that play? And if not, why not? I thought throwing your helmet was an automatic ejection?

      • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:58 PM

        Throwing your helmet is not always an automatic ejection. Throwing your helmet because of an umpire’s call will often get you ejected, but not always. Machado wasn’t throwing his helmet because of a call and the umpires apparently didn’t think he was throwing his helmet at Donaldson, because Machado was not ejected from that game. Still, based on Sunday’s events, I’m more inclined to believe he was trying to hit Donaldson with his helmet and should have been ejected.

  5. tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    What a joke! 5 games? Major League Baseball just blew a chance to make a statement here. Machado has a lot of nerve appealing an inadequate penalty.

    • sophiethegreatdane - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:32 PM

      Hmmm…remind me what kind of suspension Cabrera got for beating up his wife, starting fights at restaurants, and drunk driving.

      • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:46 PM

        Nice strawman. If we can dredge up unrelated past incidents as if they have relevance to the matter at hand, how come Roberto Alomar didn’t get a harsher penalty for spitting on an umpire? Many people claim that O.J. Simpson got away with murder. Does that mean murder trials should no longer be prosecuted?

      • boogerhill - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:33 PM

        5 games too many, butterball Abad started it!

      • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 11:25 PM

        Machado started it on Friday.

      • sophiethegreatdane - Jun 11, 2014 at 11:27 AM

        @tigersfan: you don’t understand the concept of a “straw man argument” if you actually think I made one here. In order for this to be a straw man, I would have to create a false argument/statement on your end, and then proceed to argue against it.

        Your argument: 1) the suspension was too light, and 2) baseball missed a chance to “make a statement”.

        I’ve already gone on record above regarding your point #1, and won’t rehash it here.

        Regarding #2, I was simply reminding the world that baseball has missed many more opportunities to “send a statement” in cases that far outweigh Manny’s temper tantrums from this past weekend. I purposefully chose one that I thought would resonate with you, based on your screen name and assumed team affiliation. Every single team has some instance of controversy, and many are far worse, relatively speaking, than Manny letting his temper flare.

        Your mock outrage….baseball missed a chance to make a statement!!! is not consistent with the reality of baseball’s past decisions, or their decision on Machado. They did make a statement — a statement that is 5x greater than what a pitcher gets when they throw at a batter intentionally.

        There are cases where baseball missed a chance to make a statement, but this is not one of them.

  6. zackd2 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    5 games? Wow way to be tough MLB. Ridiculous.

  7. theravenmaniac - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:15 PM

    I agree trial by combat seems like a great idea.
    But where is the suspension for the pitcher?

    • thatsnuckinfuts - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:18 PM

      Suspend a pitcher who didn’t actually hit a batter?

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:21 PM

        He threw at a player’s knee, one that was just recently operated on, and most players will tell you they are more protective of their knees than their head.

      • thatsnuckinfuts - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:23 PM

        That’s swell n all but he still didn’t actually hit Manny. So you’re in favor of pitcher suspensions when they don’t even hit a batter?

        I’d like to see .400 hitters again too but I think you’re going a bit too far.

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:26 PM

        By your logic, Manny didn’t actually hit anyone with his bat, so it’s all a wash then.

      • yahmule - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:26 PM

        Abad got fined, which was appropriate, given all the backstory behind that pitch.

        Manny should be grateful that his suspension wasn’t at least twice as long.

      • thatsnuckinfuts - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:40 PM

        Manny threw his bat at the pitcher which is completely outside the norms of the game.
        Pitchers work inside all the time, players get hit, players get hit on purpose too, doesn’t change the fact that Manny was never hit by a pitch, yet still threw his bat. Baseball has a long history of batters responding to stuff like this, and it is generally accepted that he may charge the mound and attempt to get a shot in, but it has never been accepted that he launches wood at the pitcher.

        Apples n Oranges

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:47 PM

        Abad wasn’t working inside, he wasn’t inside the norms of the game. He intentionally aimed a fastball at another player’s knees in an attempt to injure and send a message. Apples and Apples.

        Longstanding tradition that it’s ok to charge the mound does not make it right. We’ve seen players throw bats, we’ve seen players kick catchers, we’ve seen players charge the mound with bats in their hands, we’ve seen people take swings at players/manager/etc. They are all wrong here. The pitcher shouldn’t have thrown at Manny and Manny shouldn’t have released his bat. Intent is what matters here far less than results.

      • thatsnuckinfuts - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:48 PM

        MLB and the majority of it’s fans disagree with you.

      • emdash01 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:49 PM

        …more protective of their knees than their *head?* You can’t possibly be serious.

      • BmoreSportsGuy - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:54 PM

        I don’t even see why the pitcher was fined. He got tossed for throwing at a guy. Good enough for me.

      • playball - Jun 10, 2014 at 5:25 PM

        Good question. Workman got suspended for 6 games for throwing at Longoria. He never hit him. He went over his shoulder, but he never hit him. Granted, that whole circus with the RS and Rays was ridiculous, but a pitcher that never hit a batter got suspended. Six games for Workman and not one for Abad. I’m not saying Abad deserves a suspension, at all. Perhaps, the umps should have pulled warnings out when Manny started hitting Norris. I guess that’s the difference? Still, Workman never hit Longo. And I do go on record saying the whole thing with the Rays and Sox was stupid.

    • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:53 PM

      Except MLB acknowledges Abad did something wrong by fining him in the first place. And sorry if I’m not going to follow the logic of the masses who are obviously emotional as this thread clearly indicates. The hypocrisy of the average fan calling for Machado to be beaten and kicked out of baseball shows to me they clearly don’t have a impartial assessment on the situation. MLB continues their longstanding tradition of sending mixed and inconsistent messages. MLB has clearly decided it’s ok for a pitcher to throw at a batter and the batter apparently has to stand there and take it, because no one seems to be doing anything to stop it.

      • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM

        As if you aren’t being emotional…

      • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:01 PM

        Oops… I got you confused for Eutaw’s Finest. My bad. I give myself a thumb’s down.

  8. musketmaniac - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    love it, manny you can play first base on my team. any day.

  9. 18thstreet - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:33 PM

    @SamMillerBP The only way to stop a bad guy with a bat is a good guy with a bat.— Tim Britton (@TimBritton) June 10, 2014

  10. BmoreSportsGuy - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    Sounds about right. Could have easily been 10-15 games. I am a big O’s fan and I love watching Manny play, but you just cannot act the way he did! Hopefully some of the veterans on the club set him straight. Hopefully this is just an isolated incident. He is young and very talented and I hope I can remain a fan of his for many years. Time will tell.

    • sophiethegreatdane - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM

      Agreed. I’m mostly disappointed because it was so unexpected from a young man who was quiet, hard working, and didn’t show any of this in his past.

      10 games or more would have been appropriate had he actually hit somebody, but thankfully he did not. I hope that some of the veterans *and* Buck came down on him hard.

      • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:47 PM

        Why does it matter whether or not he hit somebody? His intent isn’t changed by the results.

      • BmoreSportsGuy - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:48 PM

        Yeah, I was a bit surprised that Buck didn’t sit him down last night.

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:55 PM

        I don’t think Buck can sit him down. It’s viewed as a player getting punished by both a team and the league, and that sort of benching tends to lead to player grievances with the players association. This sort of thing is usually left to be handled by the league.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:55 PM

        I’m mostly disappointed because it was so unexpected from a young man who was quiet, hard working, and didn’t show any of this in his past.

        Except throw his helmet at a player just a few days prior?

      • BmoreSportsGuy - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:12 PM

        yeah, I am sure the players union would like it if Buck sat him down and he got suspended on top of it. I just think it would have sent a nice message to Manny and the rest of the players.

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:31 PM

        Actually, he threw his helmet at the ground, but if you want to make things up, by all means go ahead.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:43 PM

        Why did he throw his helmet at the ground? Because he was pissed he got tagged out on a force play?

  11. flyeaglesfly2013 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    If this seems light to you, then a similar suspension to a pitcher getting 5 games must seem EXTRA light, right? Considering a 5-game suspension only results in a pitcher missing 1 start.

    You lack knowledge, Craig.

    • NatsLady - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:30 PM

      Abad is a reliever, speaking of knowlege.

  12. Eutaw's Finest - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    I’ve bit my tongue through the whole debacle but I’m done with that. I am infuriated with the whole situation. Do I agree Manny acted childish? 100%. Does he have some growing up to do? You betcha- HE’S 22. It’s excusable for Harper when he had his clown moments and acts foolish or throws a tantrum, but not for Manny? Why is that? Because Manny got aggressive? And why did Manny get aggressive? BECAUSE ABAD THREW AT HIS RECENTLY SURGICALLY REPAIRED KNEE ( I know this is the 3rd instance over the weekend but the issue at hand). To me? Throwing at the kids knee in that instance is just as bad, if not worse than throwing some chin music up there (Chen to Donaldson UNINTENTIONALLY). And there’s the other big difference- the intention. It’s not like Manny lost his cool on an errant pitch: that was targeted by Abad. Couldn’t plunk him in the back? Thigh? Aimed right for the knees. That is as Bush League as the bat launch by Manny. The only difference? A 90mph ball aimed at Manny’s knee versus a bat lofted in the direction of 3B. Which is likely to do more damage? End a season, possibly career?

    AGAIN: I am in no way agreeing with his actions whatsoever. I’m simply saying that I am not crucifying a 22 year old kid whose surgically repaired knee got targeted with a heater, and I’m willing to give him another chance. Something that it seems nobody else is willing to do.

    • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:49 PM

      He can absolutely have another chance. The suspension is not the end of his career, after all. I hope he learns from this experience and becomes a better man. To me, a 5-game suspension doesn’t send him a sufficient message.

    • emdash01 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:56 PM

      The Harper comparison makes no sense – a) people have criticized him, which is what you seem to be upset it happening with Machado, and b) he’s never injured or attempted to injure anyone. There’s a difference between getting mad when calls don’t go your way (which Machado also does, frequently) and trying to hurt someone. Harper’s been intentionally plunked multiple times, and the most he’s ever done is walk slightly toward the mound to mouth off.

      People react differently to a player trying to hurt someone than they do to other things. This is not shocking.

    • zackd2 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:56 PM

      Bryce Harper threw his bat in the direction of a 3B/coach/umpire? He has nothing to do with this situation, just trying to distract the audience.

      Batters get by by balls every game, whether intentional or not. Batters do not throw their bats AT players/coaches/umpires ( because all 3 are by 3B).

      You can’t argue the pitcher deserves a suspension, but that doesn’t take away from Machados actions.

      And by the way, why is 22 accepted as an immature age? This isn’t 16-17 year old kids.

    • missingjimmyjohnsonsince1994 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:58 PM

      Harper was beamed by Hamels intentionally in his first game against him. He proceeded to steal 2nd base and steal home base because he is smart and has respect for the game. Good rant you had there though

    • [citation needed] fka COPO - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM

      It’s excusable for Harper when he had his clown moments and acts foolish or throws a tantrum, but not for Manny?

      When has Harper:
      A – Thrown his helmet at an opposing player
      B – Possibly intentionally injured a catcher by hitting him in the head, twice, on his backswing
      C – Intentionally thrown his bat at an opposing player

      Let alone do all 3 in the span of a weekend.

      [Everyone who is doing it]Let’s also knock off the comparisons that Player A did something against the rules, and player B did something against the rules; therefore, they should be treated the same. Jeffrey Dahmer broke the law by killing people, and I broke the law a few years ago by speeding. Society shouldn’t look at both of us the same since we both “broke the law”.

    • clydeserra - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:19 PM

      what should be done with Chen then, who threw at someones head?

      look, the policing the game stuff is stupid. But it is accepted in baseball that if you throw at my guy on purpose, I will throw at your guy. Chen Started it. Abad finished. that is the actual unwritten rules, not this modewrn day don’t hot dog, don’t run on my mound malarkey

      And abad didn’t threaten Machado’s career. Chen did threaten Donaldson’s career and life.

      This is not crucifying Machado, its suspending him for a small amount of games.

    • daveitsgood - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:59 PM

      You’re completely right. I remember when Matt Harvey hit Cano in the knee with a 96 mph fastball in the All Star game last year. Robbie hasn’t played since. When does it stop being a “RECENTLY SURGICALLY REPAIRED KNEE”? What is the cut off date? It’s been 8 months since the surgery, he’s been playing full speed all out on it since Spring Training and he was 1 – 2 months ahead of schedule in recovery time. I’m just curious to know when it stops being a reason for his actions and is just him being a jerk?

  13. blacksables - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    People should be banned from commenting on issues that involve the team they follow.

    Nothing good ever comes of it.

    • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:56 PM

      Not everyone allows their allegiances and emotions to cloud their thoughts and opinions.

      • blacksables - Jun 10, 2014 at 6:33 PM

        George Pickett had a better chance of winning his engagement than you do.

  14. missingjimmyjohnsonsince1994 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:51 PM

    Rember when Cole Hammels beamed Bryce Harper in his first at bat against Hammels?

    Bryce Harper proceeded to steal 2nd base and steal home base. That is how you get back at a pitcher in MLB. That is why Bryce Harper is highly respected among his peers, even though fans are still angry at him for being cocky when he was in HIGHSCHOOL and JUNIOR COLLEGE.

    If you think this is bad, imagine the media uproar if Puig did this.

    Look at Harper and Trout and how they conduct themselves on the field compared to Machado and Puig. People have to understand that it takes time and experience to understand how the game is played in America and the tradition/courtesy that goes along with your all out effort.

    • emdash01 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:58 PM

      Machado was born in Florida, so I’m pretty sure he’s plenty familiar with how the game is played in America.

      • missingjimmyjohnsonsince1994 - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:00 PM

        Sorry I thought he was from the Dominican, didn’t realize he came from a U.S. Highschool and could still be so stupid

      • nbjays - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:34 PM

        You kidding? There’s been plenty of stupidity coming out of US high schools for decades.

    • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:58 PM

      And everyone killed Hammels for it, including MLB who suspended him. So why is it ok for a pitcher to throw at a batter in this instance and not in the previous? MLB needs to step up and stop the bean ball wars and head hunting. One of these days, someone’s going to get seriously injured.

      • missingjimmyjohnsonsince1994 - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:04 PM

        Somewhat agree with you except there is a very large sample size over the years to show pitchers have enough control to go where they are aiming. Pitchers tend to not headhunt, at least not often. But you never know what can happen with a wet ball or sweaty palms so I get what you are saying.

        It has been a tradition in baseball though when warranted which is why Hammels was suspended for throwing at someone just because they were portrayed as a hot head in the media and nothing had happened during that game or series to think someone should be beamed – I believe it was even the first game of the series but can’t remember.

        Throwing a bat on the other hand could have easily hit any infielder, pitcher, umpire, or fan and in MLBs mind it was probably a combination of his actions over the weekend and that put it over the top. It also got massive media coverage because he was such a young promising player last year and a black eye for MLB. From time to time you have to imagine MLB will be more concerned about reputation than the game – just like the NBA and NFL have demonstrated

      • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM

        Well, like it or not, Abad had an understandable reason for throwing at Machado. A) Machado had incited a benches-clearing incident two days prior. B) Machado had hit the A’s catcher in the head twice with his backswing. C) Machado not only failed to express concerned for the person he hit in the head, but instead seemed almost amused by it.

        As I recall, Hamels threw at Harper because Harper was a rookie. Apples to Oranges.

      • clydeserra - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:22 PM

        @tigersfan, don’t forget Chen hit donaldson after the tag

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM

        @Tigersfandan, so there are some instances where it’s OK to throw at a batter and others where it isn’t? My argument is that it is NEVER OK to throw at a batter. Seems to me that once again the unwritten rules has created an unnecessary situation in which players could have potentially gotten seriously hurt.

      • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:06 PM

        @ clydeserra: I actually don’t think Chen was trying to hit Donaldson, but it certainly looks fishy.

        @ scoutsaysweitersisabust: There is a difference between it being OK and it being understandable. Like it or not, purpose pitches are a part of the game. Purpose bat throws are not. If you wish to use this as an excuse to attack the unwritten rules, fine. Personally, I support many of those “rules” and I do believe in playing the game with professionalism.

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:23 PM

        The idea of the rules is a good intentioned one. And I certainly agree that players should behave in a respectable and mature manor. The problem arises when many of the rules are subjective, vague, and most certainly not uniform. It’s OK to steal third base with a 5 run lead in the 6th but not a 6 run lead in the 5th. A player who is well liked is able to argue about the strike zone, but a player who is deemed an attention seeker can’t flip his bat. It’s ok for a catcher to throw the ball back to the pitcher, but only after acquiring a random amount of service time, before which, the player must ask the umpire for permission first. The rules are a gigantic mess that’s been silently modified and kept for over a century at this point.

        Additionally players are deemed with enforcing these rules and handing out punishment, often times in very dangerous fashion. Leave the rules and the punishment to the league, and keep it off the field.

      • clydeserra - Jun 10, 2014 at 7:01 PM

        @tigersfan, I think it was purposeful. YMMV. but my eveidence is it was the first HBP of the year for CHen. the pitch before was up and in. It was the first donaldson AB after the machado freak out.

        If you watched donaldson’s at bat, like i did after the fact, just before the pitch preceeding the first one up and in, the broadcast picks up Chen taking his focus off the catcher, and looking directly into the front of the orioles dugout. Maybe pitchers do that. Maybe chen does that, I don’t recall ever seeing a pitcher look into the dugout like that. It was suspicious.

        Anyway, If I was on the jury, i vote guilty.

    • Chip Caray's Eyebrows - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:26 PM

      Idiot.

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:29 PM

        Classy retort

      • Chip Caray's Eyebrows - Jun 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM

        As classy as it deserved, I’d say.

    • illuminancer - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM

      Remember why Cole Hamels beaned Harper? He flat-out said it was because he felt Harper was too cocky and needed to be taken down a notch. That doesn’t say “respected by his peers” to me.

      • emdash01 - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:24 PM

        I mean, he’d been up 10 days by then, so Hamels was reacting to stories he’d heard about Harper in the minors rather than anything he’d done.

        Since then he’s been beaned: once by the Cubs in 2012 (in retaliation for Werth trying to add on runs when the Nats were up big), and twice in 2013 by the Braves (who famously overreacted to everything, for watching a homerun for a little while and then again for yelling at the pitcher about it a little).

  15. historiophiliac - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Man, everyone took grumpy pills today. Peace out.

    • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:29 PM

      I think I may end up being the cause of the thumbs system breaking the interwebs today

  16. eagles512 - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    Way too light! Should be at least triple that.

  17. halladayslabia - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    [Banned for racism, stupidity and for trying to circumvent previous bannings]

    • BmoreSportsGuy - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM

      I am pretty sure Machado isn’t a guest in this country since he was born in Miami.

    • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

      If you are going to drop racist comments, at least know what you are talking about before hitting the Post comment button.

    • BmoreSportsGuy - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:46 PM

      gotta say…that is the best ‘Comment Deleted’ text I have ever seen!

  18. mikhelb - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    Sounds like MLB didn’t want to suspend a young and on the rise “star”, with his appeal, I think his suspension will be reduced to 3 games, just in time to miss the 3 games the Os will play in Oakland’s Toiletseum.

    If he is appealing is because he finds the suspension unfair, which in turns means he thinks what he did was not (so) bad (if there’s a headhunter constantly targeting you: sure, throw him the bat, otherwise he’ll keep doing it), therefore his comments saying he is sorry for what he did, is a bunch of lies.

    It seems in MLB incidents with bats are lightly punishable… unless you’re Milton Bradley or José Offerman.

  19. annapterp - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:51 PM

    5 games is the appropriate suspension. Trot Nixon got 4 for throwing his bat at a pitcher in 2002. It’s a joke that Abad didn’t get any suspension, particularly since a 2-3 game suspension for a pitcher is really meaningless.

    Only reason Machado is appealing is so he can play in the Red Sox series. The O’s can’t replace him with another player but they can send down a reliever and bring up a position player. An appeal gives the team time to figure out what they want to do.

    Not really sure why the media is making such a big deal of this. Machado acted like an arse for a few days but its not like this stuff hasn’t happened in the past in MLB. Time to move on.

    • tigersfandan - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:09 PM

      The precedent set by the Nixon suspension is awful. 4 games is hardly sufficient for deliberately throwing a bat at someone. Abad probably shouldn’t have even been ejected.

      Regarding your last paragraph, when a rising star throws his bat at someone, what do you expect?

    • emdash01 - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:14 PM

      It’s a player who’s been held up as The Classy One of the very young players who came up in 2012 taking a complete heel turn for reasons no one really understands. That’s a pretty interesting story.

  20. fairandbalance - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:48 PM

    People should not keep on defending Machado. Consider this.
    Reacting to a tag for an out, which is necessary for the game of baseball, Donaldson got drilled. If Chen has any intelligence at all, he should not take any revenge.
    Then Norris got hit twice on the head. Why would Norris got hit twice only by Machado, but not anyone else? Does anyone think Norris would purposely move in closer so that he would be hit by Machado.
    What did Machado do reacting to 2 inside pitches? He clearly threw his bat way after (Half a second???, maybe) on the second inside pitch. Did he get hit y the pitcher? No…..
    In the worse scenario, his bat would hurt of kill the pitcher, the third baseman or even some kids in the stand.
    Keeps on depending Machado’s temper and behavior would aid and abet his thinking, perhaps it was okay for being such a pest. For the long term, his short temper and behavior would kill someone reacting to some minor inflections. I am not talking just in the ballpark.
    MLB or the O’s organization should take control of the situation. If he can’t receive a tag gracefully which is part of the game, just like any other professional, he should not be in the game.

  21. tmc602014 - Jun 10, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    scoutsaysweitersisabust – Can’t agree with everything you say, but you and few others are actually thinking while most are raving. That’s what is needed in this case, and I applaud you.

  22. linhsiu - Jun 10, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    5 game suspension… I prefer more but I don’t work for MLB…

    And those silly enough to ask the question about suspending pitcher… Abad would have to actually admit to intentionally throwing at Machado …

    Whether you like it or not, intentionally throwing at batter is an accepting practice… throwing a bat is not…

  23. vexmachine - Jun 13, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    Machado deserves the suspension for throwing the bat. He threw it intentionally, although whether he was aiming at anyone in particular is anyone’s guess. Dangerous situation and suspension is appropriate. If it had clearly gone toward the pitcher, a longer suspension would have been justified.

    Abad should be suspended for throwing at machado.
    Although pitcher’s throwing at hitters is commonplace it does not make it morally superior. It also doesnt matter that he did not hit machado, as he was clearly intending to hit him or make him believe he would be hit.

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