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HBT Daily: PED users in All-Star game could sway Hall of Fame voters

Jun 12, 2014, 1:28 PM EDT

  1. largebill - Jun 12, 2014 at 1:42 PM

    Craig, I was ready to argue with you based on the silly headline which makes it seem as if you were going to make the opposite point than the one you ended up making. Your actual comments are spot on. Hall of Fame voters couldn’t care less who makes this years All Star game when it comes to filling out their HOF ballot.

    Having said all that, I do think that as time goes on, some player with credible PED allegations will get in the HOF which in turn will cause a reconsideration of other players who have (or are alleged to have had) used PED’s. Bonds or Clemens are so beyond the normal level of accepted HOF performance I have to think they will start to gain more traction. Also, the electorate changes slightly each year which may help.

  2. notsofast10 - Jun 12, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    The only problem is figuring out who was cheating and who was not. That may never be sorted out. Bud’s awesome testing program doesn’t really help either, the players scoff at the tests.

  3. brandotho - Jun 12, 2014 at 3:21 PM

    I wonder what would happen if MLB decided that if you failed a drug test, you were disqualified from future All-Star Games. I mean, people were already complaining about how guys like Melky and Peralta were able to get nice contracts right after being suspended, so why not?

    • hiflew - Jun 12, 2014 at 4:50 PM

      Why not? How about because people deserve a second chance in life? It is ridiculous the amount of hatred that gets thrown at guys that took PEDs. I understand that they cheated, but people act like they are Nazi murderers that raped puppies while burning the American flag. People need a serious reality check when it comes to degrees of crime.

      • brandotho - Jun 12, 2014 at 6:46 PM

        Yes, you get a second chance. It’s called being allowed to play once you serve your suspension. If MLB wants to try to deter players from using PEDs even more, ban people who have failed tests from playing in the All-Star Game

  4. jburk003 - Jun 12, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    I agree Craig. Fans don’t care, baseball writers who can vote do.

    You don’t really get into specifics about a culture change among HOF voters, do you think they will ever warm up to a known PED user, and if so, how long??

    Personally, I think by 2030 we will have a known PED user in the HOF. Maybe voted in, or someone who was thought to be clean whom was voted in will come out and say they were dirty.

  5. disgracedfury - Jun 12, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    In hall of fame voters should look if the person needed PED to be great.Melky was a fourth outfielder as a Yankee and when he left the Royals he became a guy who lead the league in hitting.A-Rod,Bonds and Clemens never needed PED’s but took it and either stayed great or got better.

  6. djandujar - Jun 13, 2014 at 1:51 AM

    Some fans, like myself, just don’t care at all who “cheated” or didn’t. It is still the same game fundamentally. Just with faster, bigger people. So it goes.

  7. mvp43 - Jun 13, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    The same elitists who claim to “protect” the game from the nasty PED users, seem to forget that the current HOF is full of cheaters, womanizers and all around despicable people.

  8. smoothiecs07 - Jun 13, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    I don’t look at it as an all star game….more like the cool kids club

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