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Photo of the Day: Someone actually purchased this t-shirt

Jun 13, 2014, 11:33 AM EDT

I guess this is more “Photo of Yesterday” because that’s when I saw it leaving Great American Ballpark following the Reds-Dodgers game:


Note that he is not walking with any friends or family. The presence of whom would have likely prevented us from seeing this shirt because they would not have let him leave the house advertising his “pro-gambler, anti-woman” platform in public.

  1. DelawarePhilliesFan - Jun 13, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    Even though I get it….I actually don’t get it

    Rose before (derogatory name for women)… Pete Rose over your girlfriend/wife….

    Yea, I don’t get it. Which makes Craigs by-line spot on

    • pjmitch - Jun 13, 2014 at 11:45 AM

      I feel the same way. It’s really stupid actually. Not much thought went into this by the shirt maker nor the chump wearing it. Is this the best they could do?

    • pbastille - Jun 13, 2014 at 1:08 PM

      Not that its any better, but I believe this is actually a basketball t-shirt, and is a Chicago thing. Google “Rose before hoes” in their images section and you’ll see a ton of t-shirts with the same tag line and most have Derrick Rose’s picture on it as well. Here’s an example:

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jun 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM

        Ahhhh, good catch!

        You’re right, it isn’t any better, but at least I see what the point of the shirt is

      • pbastille - Jun 13, 2014 at 1:16 PM

        I’d lay even money that the fan thought it was a Pete Rose thing…

      • jm91rs - Jun 13, 2014 at 1:18 PM

        That looks like Rosie Red on the shirt so it’s definitely a baseball shirt. Maybe they stole the idea from Chicago fans though.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jun 13, 2014 at 2:17 PM

        And jm91 wins….it is indeed Rosie Red, and it is marketed as a Reds t-shirt by the maker

      • pbastille - Jun 13, 2014 at 2:24 PM

        Too many darn guys named Rose who are better than hoes, that’s for sure. I have the US Open on (while I “work”), and thank goodness there are none of these shirts in Justin Rose’s gallery…

    • historiophiliac - Jun 13, 2014 at 2:56 PM

      Clearly, he is a Golden Girls fan. Rose really was the best one.

    • jfk69 - Jun 13, 2014 at 8:24 PM

      He meet plenty of women with that shirt. But I assume he likes playing with the bat and balls better.

  2. thetoolsofignorance - Jun 13, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Maybe he just does not like L.J. Hoes? if I look at the numbers I will admit that though Pete Rose is a sad figure now he was a better player than Hoes at the same point in his career. So yes in this case Rose before Hoes is reasonable

  3. silversun60 - Jun 13, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    Maybe it’s a mind blowing pun that is anti-gardening. Or pro-gardening…

    • dluxxx - Jun 13, 2014 at 1:34 PM

      Oh, you mean it was supposed to say “Rows before Hoes?”

    • jwbiii - Jun 14, 2014 at 12:04 AM

      I’ll let the late, great Leszek Kolakowski take this one:

      Those who hate gardening need a theory. Not to garden without a theory is a shallow, unworthy way of life.

      A theory must be convincing and scientific. Yet to various people, various theories are convincing and scientific. Therefore we need a number of theories.

      The alternative to not-gardening without a theory is to garden. However, it is much easier to have a theory than actually to garden.

      Marxist Theory

      Capitalists try to corrupt the minds of the toiling masses and to poison them with their reactionary “values.” They want to “convince” workers that gardening is a great “pleasure” and thereby to keep them busy in their leisure time and to prevent them from making the proletarian revolution. Besides, they want to make them believe that with their miserable plot of land they are really “owners” and not wage-earners, and so to win them over to the side of the owners in the class struggle. To garden is therefore to participate in the great plot aiming at the ideological deception of the masses. Do not garden! Q.E.D.

      Psychoanalytical Theory

      Fondness for gardening is a typically English quality. It is easy to see why this is so. England was the first country of the industrial revolution. The industrial revolution killed the natural environment. Nature is the symbol of Mother. By killing Nature, the English people committed matricide. They are subconsciously haunted by the feeling of guilt and they try to expatiate their crime by cultivating and worshipping their small, pseudo¬natural gardens. To garden is to take part in this gigantic self-deception which perpetuates the childish myth. You must not garden. Q.E.D.

      Existentialist Theory

      People garden in order to make nature human, to “civilize” it. This, however, is a desperate and futile attempt to transform being-in-itself into being-for-itself. This is not only ontologically impossible; it is a deceptive, morally inadmissible escape from reality, as the distinction between being-in-itself and being-for-itself cannot be abolished. To garden, or to imagine that one can “humanize” Nature, is to try to efface this distinction and hopelessly to deny one’s own irreducibly human ontological status. To garden is to live in bad faith. Gardening is wrong. Q.E.D.

      Structuralist Theory

      In primitive societies life was divided into the pair of opposites work/leisure, which corresponded to the distinction field/house. People worked in the field and rested at home. In modern societies the axis of opposition has been reversed: people work in houses (factories, offices) and rest in the open (gardens, parks, forests, rivers, etc.). This distinction is crucial in maintaining the conceptual framework whereby people structure their lives. To garden is to confuse the distinction between house and field, between leisure and work; it is to blur, indeed to destroy, the oppositional structure which is the condition of thinking. Gardening is a blunder. Q.E.D.

      Analytical Philosophy

      In spite of many attempts, no satisfactory definition of garden and of gardening has been found; all existing definitions leave a large area of uncertainty about what belongs where. We simply do not know what exactly a garden and gardening are. To use these concepts is therefore intellectually irresponsible, and actually to garden would be even more so. Thou shalt not garden. Q.E.D.

  4. gloccamorra - Jun 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    Are you sure is doesn’t have something to do with tending flowers?

  5. yahmule - Jun 13, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    I disagree with this particular message in the strongest possible way, but I approve of the general idea of wearing inflammatory t-shirts in public. I think that would be the best and highest use of Casual Friday.

    • ezthinking - Jun 13, 2014 at 12:12 PM

      “but I approve of the general idea of wearing inflammatory t-shirts in public.”

      Me too. It makes the wackos much easier to spot.

      • dluxxx - Jun 13, 2014 at 1:36 PM

        I have a funny story about being stopped by security at the Detroit airport for wearing a “Prison Orange” tee-shirt I bought at Hot Topic.

        But it still isn’t funnier than the fact that I bought something at Hot Topic, wore it, and actually thought it was cool. Ahh, my early 20’s. Man I was an idiot.

    • historiophiliac - Jun 13, 2014 at 2:19 PM

      I can tell you from experience that you can get some good reactions from t-shirts that say “This is what a feminist looks like” and “F**k John Galt.” 😉

      • yahmule - Jun 13, 2014 at 4:36 PM

        The t-shirt I wanted to wear to high school in the early 80’s read “Your Favorite Band Sucks,” but people were way more uptight about the word “sucks” back then so I chickened out.

  6. mgv38 - Jun 13, 2014 at 12:09 PM

    I thought it was a reference to the 1975 World Series.

  7. fifthstarter - Jun 13, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    This guy probably spends his free time on Reddit bemoaning that women won’t date magnificent gentlemen like himself.

    • fifthstarter - Jun 13, 2014 at 12:39 PM



      • historiophiliac - Jun 13, 2014 at 2:21 PM

        Maybe it’s because you called us “women” instead of the b-word. Gotta know your audience.

  8. goodellisruiningtheleague - Jun 13, 2014 at 12:24 PM

    Florio and the guys over at PFT would probably flip their lids if they saw this derogatory shirt

    • grumpyoleman - Jun 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM

      There will be numerous articles over there the next few weeks because 7% of the hoes were offended

      • historiophiliac - Jun 13, 2014 at 2:41 PM


      • goodellisruiningtheleague - Jun 13, 2014 at 2:53 PM

        I wonder if they will get Harry Reid’s opinion on the shirt

  9. dwrek5 - Jun 13, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    LJ Hoes?

  10. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jun 13, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    I think he is simply trying to celebrate what Pete Rose was, before he got involved with prostitutes. The hookers turned him onto gambling. Before that, he was pretty awesome.

  11. metalhead65 - Jun 13, 2014 at 1:39 PM

    I will take Pete as my hero any day over guys who take peds and over 27 time drug users like strawberry, howe and gooden and along with the look at me I just got a hit bat flippers and self promoters of today.

    • [citation needed] fka COPO - Jun 13, 2014 at 1:45 PM

      Pretty much sums up how dumb you are in one little post. Also Pete probably took PEDs.

      • grumpyoleman - Jun 13, 2014 at 1:50 PM

        [citation needed] fka COPO – Jun 13, 2014 at 1:27 PM
        Well one might argue that Braun was cheating when he won his. Since cheating is breaking the rules (PEDs). However, PEDs weren’t against the rules when Bond won his; therefore….

        0 2
        According to you that doesn’t matter

      • Reflex - Jun 13, 2014 at 2:00 PM

        Pete Rose took greenies at the least, and has stated on the record that he would have done steroids were they available. He also encouraged his young players when he was manager of the Reds to use steroids and set them up with his closest friend at the time, a PED dealer.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Jun 13, 2014 at 2:04 PM

        According to you that doesn’t matter

        Yes, to me, I don’t care whether Rose took them or not. But to metalhead it does. Hence why I included that in my response, to HIM. But thanks for playing.

    • yahmule - Jun 13, 2014 at 5:01 PM

      Why do you require a hero?

      • metalhead65 - Jun 13, 2014 at 5:21 PM

        I don’t he was my hero growing up and while I did not need one like all kids my age we all had a sports one. and craig never misses a chance to take shots at him while praising the ped users of today and celebrating show offs like pueig.

      • yahmule - Jun 13, 2014 at 5:43 PM

        Fair enough.

  12. baberuthslegs - Jun 13, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    Craig, serious question: Did your kids ask you what the shirt’s quote meant?
    Hoping they didn’t notice it though.

    Then again, I guess kids would know what it meant.

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