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AL All-Star voting update: Derek Jeter still has a battle on his hands at shortstop

Jun 16, 2014, 9:49 PM EDT

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There aren’t any changes in the American League All-Star balloting from last week, but tonight’s update shows that there are still a few positions up for grabs.

The most high-profile one is at shortstop, where Derek Jeter holds a slim lead over Alexei Ramirez. Ramirez obviously has a strong case based on his half-season stats — he’s having a wonderful year — but Jeter still figures to pull away in his final season. It’s just taking a little longer than you’d expect.

Jose Bautista, the AL’s leading vote-getter, and Mike Trout are in fine position to start in the outfield, but the third spot is still wide open. Melky Cabrera leads the way while Yoenis Cespedes, Adam Jones, and Jacoby Ellsbury aren’t too far behind. Second base and the DH spot are also still pretty competitive.

It’s worth noting that Matt Wieters, who will undergo season-ending Tommy John surgery tomorrow, still has the lead at the catcher position. Brian McCann ranks second and Derek Norris is in third. Check out the full update below:

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  1. bronco58lb - Jun 16, 2014 at 10:28 PM

    It’s nice to see the fans vote for Josh Donaldson after he was wrongly snubbed in 2013.

    • hcf95688 - Jun 16, 2014 at 11:14 PM

      A couple of his teammates – Cespedes and Norris – may have a shot too.

  2. Jason @ IIATMS - Jun 16, 2014 at 10:40 PM

    OK, so Jetes doesn’t deserve it, but it will be nice to see him get the call.

    • mmeyer3387 - Jun 16, 2014 at 11:16 PM

      I have greart respect for Jetter and believe that no one can argue that Jetter has been a great player and deserves to go to the Hall of Fame as well. However, He is in danger now of becoming like another great player that was also classy and one of the greats in his prime and worshiped by fans; this player is Ripken. Furthermore, Jetter is no where close to being an all star any more. The all star vote is corrupt and needs to being changed to players and coaches voting or having their votes count as the majority. Additionally, the gold glove award is also a insult to the game. Over the years, we have had the best offensive player win gold glove awards. Despite the fact that they are average defensive players. While I’m in a truth telling mood, Jetter has never been a great defensive player, his range is average. Additionally, Ripken made all star teams when he was just a shell of the player he once was and the same goes for Jetter. I’m sure that I will catch hell for telling the truth, but this is not the 50’s, 60’s, 70, or whatever the base ball epoch was when the average fan was not able to see certain players or look up their stats. Just because someone was a great player once does not mean that people should do their home work.

      • erbaodai - Jun 16, 2014 at 11:35 PM

        I think letting the players and coaches decide will be just as bad, we should instead hand the voting to a committee of few intelligent and reasonable individuals such as Bill James, Dave Cameron, Rob Neyer, Joe Posnanski, etc (not the BBWAA, because we don’t want guys like Murray Chass in it). In fact, we should just let the Fielding Bible Voting Panel decide on the all-stars, and I’m sure they’ll do a much better job than the fans, the players and the coaches.

      • deadeyedesign23 - Jun 16, 2014 at 11:45 PM

        Or let the fans vote and stop having the game be anything more than an exhibition. Letting the SABR community build a fantasy roster isn’t much fun and in an ideal world that’s all this game should be is fun.

        MLB is conflated declining fan interest with the fact that it wasn’t a competitive game when it’s in fact that the all star game is simply obsolete. It was created so fans all over the country who only ever got to see their local teams got to see Mickey Mantle and the like. Well, now we can all see Trout and Kershaw, etc so either the game needs to just be a fun mid season breather or it needs to go away.

      • mikhelb - Jun 17, 2014 at 6:24 AM

        I have a hard time believing you are a baseball fan… the guy’s last name is Jeter, not JeTTer.

        While I agree that there have been injustices in allowing certain players go to the all-star, it is called that way because they are stars and usually people like to watch stars playing, not a guy who is having a great half season but will regress in august.

        Now, sure Jeter right now has a horrible range, look at the guy’s age, but to say he always had a bad range can not the negate he has had one of the best hands for a SS, converting a high amount of balls he gets to, onto outs… and that considering the Yankees pitching staffs usually induce less grounders towards SS/3B than the average pitching staff of the other 29 teams does in MLB… plus he is not there to play defense, he is the best shortstop you have ever seen, look at his numbers, even when he is having a horrible season, he is what? #8 all time in hits?

        We’ve been talking a lot about Tony yesterday and did you know that:

        Jeter has had more 200 hits seasons than Tony? 8 to 5. He has had more homeruns (almost double the total), more steals, more RBI (though they do not matter a lot, he was a leadoff bat most of his career), and there is not much difference between their SLG and OBP.

        While Gwynn has been the greatest hitter I have ever seen, to say Jeter has not been good… is downright ignorant.

        The Gold Glove are not awarded by MLB, a company decides who to give the GG, like when the Rolaids Reliever of the Year award was popular… you know, corporations awarding popular players.

      • Kevin Gillman - Jun 17, 2014 at 11:28 AM

        It’s the last time Jeter would get in, so what is the harm? Remember, I don’t think he would be in unless he was voted as fans choice. Start the game, get 1 AB, or 2. Then leave, and let Ramirez take over. Nothing wrong with that.

  3. greatmiamisportsmind - Jun 16, 2014 at 10:47 PM

    Hometown guy not even in the top 5? Good thing he’s signed through 2059 at 75,657,235 per season

  4. disgracedfury - Jun 16, 2014 at 10:55 PM

    Hopefully Melky loses not for PED’s but because he isn’t better than Cespedes or Adam Jones.

    • mmeyer3387 - Jun 16, 2014 at 11:46 PM

      The MLB is a great sport and there are many things for fans to disagree about. But not voting for a player because you think he needs to be punished is plain silly. I’m not a Melky fan, but I do think that he is a very good all around player. So far, Melky has had a good season and I may consider voting for him. Maybe his play has been deserving to some fans and they are they are picking one of the AL’s better all around out fielders so far. Some may disagree and chose someone else. But fans need to base their vote on this years play. but I’m sick of hearing PED’s arguments about someone past. People either a player is deserving because of his play, which should only be based on this YEAR AND NOT PASSED YEARS or TRANSGRESSIONS. It’s just silly for fans to think this way. First, how do you know if some of the players that you are voting for were not PED’s users. Remember, the list that was leaked only names a few. Which means that we know that many others were protected from the leak? Second, the league told the players that they were going to test long before they tested, so maybe some were smart and went into the season clean. Third, why or how can a player be judged because of his past. Being an All Star for 2014 is for 2014, isn’t it. We have no idea who used in the past or even when it started. We know that athletes is other sports (NFL and Olympics) used is the 1970’s. Just maybe some used in the 1960’s as well. But some are a little dim and forget to think their votes through. I just hope that most people can think for themselves and do a little home about the game.

  5. mazblast - Jun 16, 2014 at 11:28 PM

    It doesn’t matter whether Jeter wins the vote or not, they’ll say he won. The only question is which NL pitcher will be assigned the task of throwing him a meatball to hit for a home run in his final ASG at-bat. After all, this is 2014 and we must Disneyfy everything, perhaps even with swelling musical underscoring.

    • mmeyer3387 - Jun 16, 2014 at 11:54 PM

      let us hope you joking and that could never happen because people are smarter and honest. I’m sure that Jetter will get his just dues when he is inducted into the Hall of Fame. He been a great player, good for the game, and deserving of our respect. However, not only are his best days behind him, he’s not even close to being an All Star. Us fans, not to take our votes in a serious manner that the game deserves. I’m not picking on Jetter, but he is human and like ever other player his skills have diminished with age. It happens to all players, be they great or average, and Jetter is no different.

  6. deadeyedesign23 - Jun 16, 2014 at 11:46 PM

    Jeter has no business going anywhere near an all star game that supposedly counts. He’s literally been in the bottom 10% of position players this year.

  7. mmeyer3387 - Jun 16, 2014 at 11:56 PM

    I have to agree, but I would put in nicer words. Still the truth is the truth no matter how its worded.

    • mmeyer3387 - Jun 17, 2014 at 10:17 AM

      I’m sure that most will agree that Ellsbury is clearly the Yanks best offensive player. But the real question should be; is he having an All Star year this year? He is one of the best at stealing bases and he scores a lot of runs, which is a big deal. He is a good in either center field or left. Good glove and range. However, his arm is average at best. But, my guess is that the key factor for most non Yankee voters will be his BA. My guess is that most want to see him hitting closer to .300. I think most will hold it against him if he is still hitting under the .300 bench mark. Still, hitting .300 or more shouldn’t be the only bench mark. Other factors such as OBP, RBI’s and hitting with runners in scoring position and WAR as well. In my own option, I think that he does other things as well to where he is having a good season. Nonetheless, most fans may want him hitting closer to 300 or even over. His all star status may end up being very interesting to watch.

  8. LIBERAL JUSTICE - Jun 17, 2014 at 12:03 AM

    No Ellsbury? Gardner? Solarte? Ichiro?

    The fans have spoken..they obviously want more Yankees because were that good

    • mmeyer3387 - Jun 17, 2014 at 1:18 AM

      As a fan of the game I’ve enjoyed all of the players that you mentioned. However, some of the players are still only popular because they have been great in the past and others haven’t had great seasons yet (Ellsbury,Gardner and Solarte still may before the season is over). Only one of the players that you mentioned as the today is hitting 300 or better.Yet, you have made me course; if you are being honest with your statement, why would you and others vote this way. So Mr Liberal Justice, by using deductive reasoning this is what appears to justify the sum of your confidence and others like you. If those players are getting a lot of votes it’s because that their team is the most popular or they play for the largest press and tv rating community in our nation. Surly popularity seems to fit very well, because it can’t be because the votes are based on 2014’s stats. However, there could be other reasons; blind emotion, failure to view the truth or worse yet, arrogant and overly convinced of your teams own superiority and importance. Still, popularity seems to be a large factor. But maybe you are joking or it has become a habit to vote without thinking and doing any home work prior to voting and leading with your boastful statement. Nonetheless, you seem like a great person so I hope that doesn’t describe you my friend, please drop a line and tell us the truth. We will all be waiting, don’t forget us.

  9. 1998yanks - Jun 17, 2014 at 12:18 AM

    mmeyer3387, although I I agree, how can you ramble on about a guy over and over again and not know how to spell his name correctly? the guy has been famous since 1996 and his name is Jeter. Not Jetter. Makes me wonder how much baseball you really know.

    • mmeyer3387 - Jun 17, 2014 at 2:24 AM

      I guess I failed to worship the proper baseball gods; I’m just overwhelmed with skepticism. Yes, 1998yanks, you have found what could be a major flaw or maybe I was thinking too fast. I promise that I will never spell his name wrong. I will try to never repeat that mistake. Yet I did know that Jetter was a well known or famous ball player since the 1996 World Series win over the Braves. Furthermore, one should always be willing and open to learning. Forgive me sir, I want ramble again. I’ll get to the point. I just have a few questions from a educated fan, which isn’t ruled by emotions. In all frankness do you believe that Mr Jetter should be on the 2014 All Star team? Have you ever viewed him as a great defensive short stop. Additionally, I read a very interesting baseball observation recently, Mike Francesa, stated that Jetter has never been the best shortstop in the game and few would have known him if he played his career with a bad team that never got to playoff a game. Still, he would have been an All star that most baseball fans would have failed to notice. However, Francesa views Jetter as a Hall of Famer that was able to show us that he was a great player because he did great things on the national stage that the Yankee’s set during their world series and playoff runs. Please give me your take on Francesa opinion. I’m interested in your option, because you seem to be an educated and true Yankee fan

  10. mmeyer3387 - Jun 17, 2014 at 12:34 AM

    I’m only one person and I’m only giving one man’s opinion. Yet, I call on fans to give better and original opinions to bring them forth. I’m sure that I’ve stepped on a few toes when I criticized Jetter and Ripken as examples of fans that have done and set a poor example of what true fans should want for the All Star game. Moreover, fans that vote for anyone that’s clearly not close having a good year, let alone a great season has diminished the voting process. One other good example, I’m a fan of the game and I’ve voted for Matt Wieters before, twice in fact. But how could I vote for him this year, he’s only got to catch a few months. Now he is out for the whole year. How can anyone who follows the game vote for Wieters for his 2014 season? Second, I think that questing people that are just using SABR stats is a very good argument from either view ( solid points can be made from either a pro or con view). But voting fans that vote for players that have become their heroes for the last decade and still vote them regardless of what kind of season they are having is bad for the game. I argue this point because they vote with emotional blindness. What is the purpose of the All Star game anymore? Additionally, I disagree with having only Bill James and a handful of others vote. This is also an extreme in the other direction. I argue for the middle ground, let players, coaches and fans only have one vote and I think we will get a better product and one that we can respect.

  11. 1998yanks - Jun 17, 2014 at 12:41 AM

    Did you not read my comment? Are you kidding me?

  12. papacrick - Jun 17, 2014 at 3:02 AM

    V mart getting robbed in the DH category. Arguably the best season going for any hitter at any position

  13. sabresfanallday - Jun 17, 2014 at 6:39 AM

    Even if players and coached voted Jeter would still get in. And its not like he is hitting 230 he is hitting 270

  14. greymares - Jun 17, 2014 at 7:20 AM

    As a fan of the National league I’m for putting all has been players on the A.L. roster.

  15. stevequinn - Jun 17, 2014 at 8:54 AM

    Jeter is a sentimental choice I guess because his play this year doesn’t justify starting an All-Star game. I”m kinda confused that Ellsbury isn’t receiving more votes. Wonder if Farrell will select him. That’s ironic because Boston certainly could have used Ellsbury this ear.

  16. sportsfan18 - Jun 17, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    The voting process is working as it was intended to.

    Fans get to vote for who they WANT to see in the game…

    This means that the players with the best stats don’t always make it.

    We know and see this year after year after year…

    And each year we hear and listen to folks gripe and complain about how so and so was robbed, should have been on the team as his stats are better… blah, blah, blah…

    Uh, the FANS did NOT want to SEE that player, better stats and all so he didn’t make.

    THAT is the process. So they were NOT robbed, cheated etc…

    There are NOT instructions on the voting ballots or online that say we HAVE to vote for the player with the highest ERA+, OPS+, batting average etc…

    And even with focusing on stats, there are still issues.

    To me, Mike Trout was the MVP the last two seasons in the AL and not Miggy.

    Guess what? There will be a player or players this season that have better stats that don’t make the all star game, just like every season and that is OK.

    EACH of the all stars that are VOTED in are the ones the fans WANTED to see in the game.

    I’d much rather see “name” players in the game personally, whether at the end of their career or in the middle of their career during an off season.

    • mmeyer3387 - Jun 17, 2014 at 12:15 PM

      Yes I do agree that MLB wants to keep the fans interested and to feel that they are part of the process. But I don’t think that it always works, but it does work very well when it comes to making money. However, I do realize that after a handful in each league are voted in it often become a subjective process. But Wieters should not be there this year. I think that most will agree that a player must have played in more than a two months. However, most of his votes were from eariler in the season to where he had a good start. Secondly, its a name recognition factor and AL catchers are not well known to most.

  17. rbj1 - Jun 17, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    “Ramirez obviously has a strong case based on his half-season stats”

    So is it an “All-Star” game or an “All-who’s-having-the best-first-half-of-the-season” game?

  18. dluxxx - Jun 17, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    I really think that Dozier in 4th place is getting snubbed a bit. He’s having a hell of a season, and he was pretty awesome last year as well. His batting average is a bit low, but he’s still leading in SLG, and is 2nd to Cano in OPS (.807 to .810). He’s already got a 15 HR & 15 steal season and could be the first 30/30 guy for the Twins in quite some time.

    I get Cano being in first, and it’s hard to argue it, but having Kinsler and Pedroia ahead of Dozier and Altuve is a joke. They could arguably be 1 & 2 based on the seasons they’re having.

  19. kyzslew77 - Jun 17, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    I’ll tell you what, this mmeyer guy really has some super scorching hot taeks

  20. musketmaniac - Jun 17, 2014 at 3:17 PM


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