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Mets hitting pitcher eighth for first time in team history

Jun 16, 2014, 6:18 PM EDT

The Mets will enter play tonight ranked 23rd in the majors in runs scored, so manager Terry Collins has decided to do something a little different with his lineup. In fact, it’s so different, it’s never been done in team history until tonight:

That’s right. The Mets will bat their starting pitcher, rookie right-hander Jacob deGrom, eighth tonight against the Cardinals. Meanwhile, Eric Young, Jr. will bat ninth in his return from the disabled list.

Collins told Joel Sherman of the New York Post back in March that was thinking about hitting the pitcher eighth, but he hasn’t done so until now. The idea is to present more RBI opportunities to the players at the top of the lineup, which makes sense considering that Curtis Granderson is batting leadoff for the second straight day and Daniel Murphy is hitting second. Those two have been the Mets’ best hitters of late. It’s worth a shot as they try to scrape more runs across the board.

  1. rdav29 - Jun 16, 2014 at 6:28 PM

    Nothing says the wheels are coming off more than batting your pitcher eighth.

    • dondada10 - Jun 16, 2014 at 6:31 PM

      It’s the Cardinal Way.

    • ereed1286 - Jun 16, 2014 at 9:03 PM

      La Russa must have called them

  2. thatsnuckinfuts - Jun 16, 2014 at 6:51 PM

    Lineup optimization is worth a win and half during a season at the most. And batting the pitcher 8th adds 1.9 runs a year. So the Mets aren’t wrong is doing this, for all the good it will do.

    • tridecagon - Jun 16, 2014 at 8:25 PM

      Wait a minute. Isn’t batting the pitcher eighth just a form of lineup optimization? How can it be worth more than optimizing your lineup when it IS optimizing your lineup?

      • futbolhistorian - Jun 17, 2014 at 12:21 AM

        Lineup optimization = 1.5 wins per year (approx 15-18 runs)
        Batting pitcher 8th = 1.9 runs

  3. kiwicricket - Jun 16, 2014 at 7:43 PM

    Are you sure a pitcher has not just replaced one of the position hitters? Might increase OPS

  4. plmathfoto - Jun 16, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    Watching all the Mets games (glutton for punishment for sure), the best two hitters on the team (as I’ve said several times) for the past few weeks are Bobby Abreu and DeGrom, if they’re going to do it, that’s the pitcher to use. He was a shortstop in college.

  5. hcf95688 - Jun 16, 2014 at 11:19 PM

    did them a hell of a lot of good

  6. sabresfanallday - Jun 17, 2014 at 6:43 AM

    The Yankees have batted a pitcher 8th before in fact it was just last year

    • jlovenotjlo - Jun 17, 2014 at 8:35 AM

      “That’s interesting and pertinent” -no one ever

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