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HBT Daily: Kershaw’s no-no was one for the ages

Jun 19, 2014, 1:30 PM EDT

  1. eoyguy - Jun 19, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    I was just thinking that since we live in an age where a pitcher’s win-loss record is considered by many to be an obsolete way to determine how good they are (and who gets Cy Young awards), why should an error by a position player ruin a “perfect game”? The pitcher had nothing to do with the error (other than not striking out the batter). If a position player’s error can ruin a perfect game, shouldn’t a perfect game be credited to the team and not just the pitcher???

    • roundballsquarebox24 - Jun 19, 2014 at 2:15 PM

      I agree with these points. Of course, on paper a no-no or a perfecto goes on the track record of the pitcher who threw it. But, I have seen quite a few no-no’s and 2 perfecto’s in my life. I know that the ones that I happened to be watching out of all the no-hitters/perfect games thrown in baseball history is a tiny sample size, but every single one that I have seen has been a team effort. Not that the pitchers weren’t lights-out because if they weren’t, there wouldn’t even be any thought of a no-no/perfect game. But, in every single one that I have seen there has been at LEAST one play where a ball was hit that should/could have been a base-hit and a defender makes an amazing play to help his pitcher make history. It happened last night when Tulowitzki hit a ball that easily gets by many third basemen but Miguel Rojas made a nice back-handed play to bail Kershaw out.

    • grumpyoleman - Jun 19, 2014 at 2:52 PM

      Win-loss record does not determine the Cy-Young award.

      • eoyguy - Jun 19, 2014 at 3:00 PM

        Which is what I said. At one time a great won-loss record was almost a prerequisite for CY Young consideration, and a pitcher with something near a .500 record probably wouldn’t even be considered regardless of his other stats. Thats how the use of stats has changed things, so why not how a perfect game is credited?

  2. thetoolsofignorance - Jun 19, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    Oh you didn’t. You. Did. Not. No one says Sandy Kaufax’s numbers are ‘a bit inflated’ and I let that go. No sir. No way. I am prepared to say Clayton Kershaw is a young Kaufax in the making. I’m prepared to say he could be as good. But I am not getting in line with “better than Kaufax and Kaufax was a bit inflated”. No one of his era was as good as Kaufax was at his peak and they all had the same dead ball era to pitch in. Kershaw was AS GOOD last night, I think. THAT I can live with. But don’t anyone dare mess with the misty-eyed remembrances of an old man. I’ll set the dog on you.

    • El Bravo - Jun 19, 2014 at 2:30 PM

      Haha I love this.

    • stex52 - Jun 19, 2014 at 3:39 PM

      I have to come in on your side, tools. When the Dodgers were on the road in Houston, the Astrodome would sell out. The rest of the time it was maybe 40% full. At his peak Koufax alone was a draw to fill stadiums. Such was the universal recognition of his talent. Kershaw may get there. He is probably even headed that way. But not yet.

    • yahmule - Jun 19, 2014 at 7:02 PM

      Ah, the old Kaufax/Kurshaw debate.

  3. jcthree3303 - Jun 19, 2014 at 5:40 PM

    Not all No nos are the same. No hitting the Rockies is insanely good. That team can rake from top to bottom. Utter domination. Kershaw is just flat out terrific.

  4. miguelcairo - Jun 19, 2014 at 5:45 PM

    Sadly, may be the last no-hitter Scully will ever call. But man was it perfect.

    “One measly, miserable out to go.” Classic.

    • notsofast10 - Jun 19, 2014 at 6:49 PM

      Wouldn’t be surprised if Vin calls another Kershaw no hitter this year!

  5. dougtucson - Jun 19, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    I left LA when I retired after listening to Scully with pleasure for 25 years. I miss him, and hearing his call of the last inning last night was like revisiting paradise. Gosh how baseball will miss him.

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