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Plenty of scouts in attendance for David Price’s start against the Astros

Jun 20, 2014, 8:35 PM EDT

Lots of eyes are on Rays starter David Price tonight. Via Mark Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times:

The Rays are a disappointing 29-45 this season, good for last place in the AL East. They’re 5.5 games out of fourth place and 12 games out of first. As Price is a free agent after the 2015 season following his fourth and final year of arbitration eligibility, the Rays are expected to shop their lefty leading up to the July 31 trade deadline.

Price, 28, has a 3.93 ERA with an eye-popping 121/10 K/BB ratio in 107 2/3 innings this season. He recorded the 1,000th strikeout of his career when he got Chris Carter looking in the second inning.

  1. go4two - Jun 20, 2014 at 8:50 PM

    Why ? Lmao.

    • SocraticGadfly - Jun 20, 2014 at 9:05 PM

      Why? Well, you maroon, with Cliff Lee on the shelf, he’s the best available lefty, period. He’s had a bit of gopher-ball problems but other than that has been good this year.

      • SocraticGadfly - Jun 20, 2014 at 9:14 PM

        I’ve blogged about this before. The Cards have plenty to offer.

        The Yankees have nothing. The Sox have a fair amount but, yes, if the Rays are looking ahead, I think they’d want to at least trade Price to outside the division, if not outside the whole AL. So, scratch Sox and Jays.

        Cleveland? Well, I guess they’ll pay to rent him for a year and a half if they really want to.

        Cards, as noted, and Giants, would seem to have the best shot.

      • kingscourt25 - Jun 20, 2014 at 9:29 PM

        The Giants have one of the worst farm systems in baseball

      • paperlions - Jun 20, 2014 at 9:34 PM

        The problem is that whoever trades for him is going to be trading a LOT because they are going to be paying for Price twice, once in prospects and then in salary as he isn’t cheap. He’s a nice upgrade, but he won’t make that much of a difference, especially if you are paying him and giving up 2-3 nice prospects for him.

      • proudlycanadian - Jun 20, 2014 at 11:09 PM

        Tampa Bay is always reluctant to trade a player to another team in the same division.

      • hittfamily - Jun 20, 2014 at 11:09 PM

        Your article is homerville. Shelby Miller and Jon Jay or Peter Bourjos,? For Price? Why not throw in Descalso to make it more appealing to the Rays? Is Kozma still a Card?

        Who of the following is Jon Jay or Peter Bourjos better than: Myers, Jennings, Joyce, Dejesus, Kiermaier? Either would be in a reserve roll, even if Joyce is traded as well. Lance Lynn is Arbitration eligible next year. No thanks. Miller is walking 4 per 9 while only striking out 6 per nine. Who else you got, because I have no interest in Miller.

        “I’d throw in Greg Garcia, as Tampa can use him to replace Ben Zobrist, whom I assume they’ll not resign after this year. “———Um, Zobrist is not a FA at year’s end. They have a 7.5 mil option for 2015. Yes it will be picked up. Also, Greg Garcia is a 25 year old, who can’t hit AAA pitching. The Rays have BA top 100 prospect Hak Ju Lee to replace Zobrist, and in 3 years, Escobar.

        “I would NOT consider Marco Gonzales. “. So that’s 2 prospects you won’t trade?
        “As for minors position players, Aledmys Diaz, like Gonzales, is not for sale on this deal.” 3 prospects not for sale?

        Everybody but Eric Bedard and JuanCarlos Oviedo are signed thru 2015. We don’t want your MLBer’s. We want your prospects. However, in your mind, Tampa bay would be willing to trade Price for your 4th best prospect, or is he also not for sale? Unless Taveras is the centerpiece, you won’t get Price, as someone else will include their best prospect. They would at least be willing to include their 5th best prospect, as you likely wouldn’t do that either.

        “If a back-of-rotation majors pitcher, like a Joe Kelly or Tyler Lyons, further lubricates such a trade, OK.”

        At least Joe Kelly or Tyler Lyons can be included!!!!

      • SocraticGadfly - Jun 21, 2014 at 3:09 PM


        1. I said it was a starting point.
        2. I said Lynn or Miller; I didn’t specify Miller. I also said that a minors prospect pitcher would be included.
        3. I also said I’d include Greg Garcia, who’s played well at Memphis and had a Cards call-up.
        4. I noted specifically that all players involved give Tampa what it likes — contract control.

        Ergo, while it’s a good deal, I think, for the Cards, it’s NOT a “homerville” or a bad deal for the Rays. You think you’re going to get more elsewhere?

      • hittfamily - Jun 21, 2014 at 4:52 PM

        Dude, if the Cards get Price, you are going to be really pissed. Everybody you said is untouchable, will now be untouchable in a Rays uniform. Lance Lynn, with 3 months til he meets his first arbitration attorney, will not be headlining this deal. Price will be moved for at least 2 prospects with superstar potential, not a #3 starter with 3 years of team control left, who is about to get a hefty pay raise.

        Andrew Friedman will not even answer the phone if an organizations top prospect is off the table, let alone the top 3. They don’t trade top talent in their second year of arb for mediocre talent in their first.

        John Jay/Bourgeois and Lance Lynn combined will make around 10 mil next year. If they can’t afford to pay Price 13 mil, why on earth would they want to pay a 5th outfielder and a starter without a guaranteed spot in spring training that kind of money. Cobb, Archer, Moore, Odorizzi, Hellickson. Lance might beat out Hellickson, depending on how Hellickson performs this year, but he’s not bumping any of the others.

        As for the “controllable players” point. They have controllable players. About 300 of them between AAA, AA, A+, A, Rookie,and extended spring training. They want GOOD controllable players, not your 25 year old run of the mill organizational fillers.

  2. knicksmets - Jun 20, 2014 at 9:03 PM

    That’s kind of funny not something you hear every day.

  3. flpunx - Jun 20, 2014 at 9:10 PM

    Since we all know Price is leaving at SOME point this season, can we please just not trade him within the division? How about a NL team? Thanks.

  4. cdawg1969 - Jun 20, 2014 at 9:16 PM

    How about LA for an outfielder?

    • dondada10 - Jun 20, 2014 at 9:25 PM

      You can start with two: Scott Van Slyke and Joc Pederson. Those two plus two other pieces gets it done.

      • senioreditor2 - Jun 20, 2014 at 9:52 PM

        Not a chance, way too much

      • hittfamily - Jun 20, 2014 at 10:44 PM

        What? You can keep Van Slyke, but who’s he replacing, especially with Pederson. Start with Joc, throw in Seager, and end with Urias. You’re getting him for 50 starts, not 15. Look at past trades: Dickey for D’arnaud and Syndergaard. Greinke for 2 top 100 prospects from the Brewers. Greinke for half a season traded for Segura. Garza for half a season traded for a top 100 prospect in Olt.

        Price is much better than any of the above.

        Would you trade a year and a half of Kershaw at a very discounted salary for Matt Joyce and Tampa’s top prospect? That’s essentially your trade proposal.

      • unclemosesgreen - Jun 21, 2014 at 6:10 AM

        I’m with hittfamily here, no on Van Slyke. Joc Pedersen, Chris Reed and Yimi Garcia – now maybe we’re talking.

        Kershaw, Greinke, Price, Ryu, Beckett would be a disgusting rotation.

      • yahmule - Jun 21, 2014 at 10:05 AM

        You would rather keep Van Slyke over Pederson? That’s comedy.

  5. Eutaw's Finest - Jun 20, 2014 at 10:35 PM

    I should hope the Rays are smart enough not to trade him within the division. Assuming all offers are within reason of course. But I can’t imagine the Jays or Yanks will have offers on the table that will blow away the competition.

    • paint771 - Jun 20, 2014 at 11:32 PM

      Bear in mind whoever the Rays get in the trade, the Jays and Yanks will have to face for a lot longer than Price’s current contract.

  6. hittfamily - Jun 20, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    Giant’s? What are they going pay with an IOU? That’s the head scout wanting to get away for a few days n the boss’ dollar. They don’t have the prospects.

  7. paint771 - Jun 20, 2014 at 11:29 PM

    Are scouts really necessary?

    Honestly, I don’t get that. Hell I can get Rays games on my phone, and it’s not like he’s some high school pitcher in Indiana.

    • louderthanwords1 - Jun 21, 2014 at 5:35 AM

      It’s called due diligence. You can get the Rays games on your phone but the only thing your looking at is what the camera shows you or commercials. I’m pretty sure scouts would rather be watching Price than the camera scanning the crowd.

  8. necrondi - Jun 21, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    Socratic, that article is absolute garbage. I’m a WhiteSox fan. We’re not getting Price, but for the price you think you can get him we can be in too. Do yourself a favor. If you want your blog to be taken seriously don’t try and insert 4th outfielders as a main piece for a 28 year old left handed Cy Young winner. Think Miller, Wacha, and third higher level prospect. You include Tavares in the discussion it only costs you one of the names above.

    • hittfamily - Jun 21, 2014 at 5:05 PM

      Agree!!! Maybe I’ll write a blog about how 3 brand new, fresh from the mint quarters are better than that wrinkly old dollar bill.

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