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Ron Roenicke does not believe in throwing at opposing hitters on purpose

Jun 20, 2014, 4:01 PM EDT

Ron Roenicke AP AP

The Brewers and Diamondbacks got into a plunking war earlier this week. Or at least the Diamondbacks did. The Brewers don’t typically play that game. As Adam McCalvy reports, the Brewers are usually last or near last in hitting opposing batters with pitches even when they are being hit a lot.

This is no coincidence. Ron Roenicke says that it’s part of his philosophy:

“We try to pitch the way we should pitch. We don’t throw at people. There’s a time you have to pitch inside to get people out. Good hitters you have to pitch inside. So that’s what happens.

“I’ve seen teams get hurt by it, yes. But I don’t think it’s part of the game. Just pitch. Get people out.”

Good for Roenicke. Would that more managers felt the way he does about it.

(Thanks to Jess for the heads up)

  1. stex52 - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:08 PM

    That sound you heard in the distance was Kurt Gibson’s head exploding.

    • Balladeer - Jun 20, 2014 at 7:08 PM

      That sound you heard in the distance was Kirk Gibson’s head exploding.


  2. brianincbus - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    He’s most assuredly not gritty enough to manage the D-Bags!

    • stex52 - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:13 PM

      He takes that as a compliment.

  3. jaguar0413 - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    Surely Roenicke just broke an unwritten rule right?

  4. bfunk1978 - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:19 PM

    Let’s hear it for intelligence over rampaging testosterone and “getting even”!

  5. greymares - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:24 PM


  6. billybawl - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:26 PM

    It’s funny that the prevailing logic is that you are tougher if you try to hit a batter with a pitch after some perceived offense (He tagged too hard! He bunted against our shift in a blowout! He flipped his bat!) than if you just suck it up and win on the field. Roenicke projects more confidence here than Gibson and others from the old school. He’s telling his players he expects them to win. No excuses, and don’t give away a single out.

    • maddog11896 - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:30 PM

      Exactly. Last I remembered in these “unwritten rules”, you don’t plunk a guy after he plunks one of yours. What do you do? You make him pay for it. Which is EXACTLY what Johnathan Lucroy did the other night.

      • billybawl - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:36 PM

        That was so, so sweet.

  7. maddog11896 - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM

    Even with Ryan Braun, Carlos Gomez and Rickie weeks, the Brewers are a relatively level headed team. Yes before I go any further I am a Brewers fan. And while no I did not expect to hold down first place for nearly 3 months to start the season, I did know this team was better than everyone thought they’d be. It seems like a simple enough philosophy, but all Brewers do is go out and play the game and try to win, and after that they get ready for the next game, all the while having fun in between.

    • glennsyank13 - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:54 PM

      What has Weeks ever done?

      • maddog11896 - Jun 20, 2014 at 6:28 PM

        Haha meant to say K-Rod my bad

      • gwhempel - Jun 20, 2014 at 6:39 PM

        Weeks has been hit by pitches A LOT. He’s lead the league twice. He’s also one of the nicest, coolest professional athletes I’ve ever met.

  8. tfbuckfutter - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:32 PM

    The rule should be that any batter that gets hit gets to throw at the pitcher once.

    This would be worth it just to see Delmon Young hit the 3rd base coach in the ankle.

    • pandorasdadca - Jun 20, 2014 at 5:53 PM

      That’s another reason I like National League baseball. The pitcher has to stand in there and face the music himself.

      • raysfan1 - Jun 20, 2014 at 6:20 PM

        Except pitchers don’t throw at pitchers anyway.

    • ptfu - Jun 20, 2014 at 6:06 PM

      Seems more like it would be the 3rd base coach getting to plunk Delmon in the ankle. This is in retaliation for the 3rd base coach getting ankle-plunked by one of Delmon’s outfield “throws.”

  9. apeville - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:39 PM

    Evolution works, sounds like somebody wants to try it.

  10. Matt Aromando - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:44 PM

    The Brewers are tied for fewest IBB too. A good manager doesn’t beat himself.

  11. cassi1125 - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:45 PM

    And yet there are those who think Roenicke is about the worst coach in the world just because he won’t get into a beanball war. Ya can’t win…

    • tfbuckfutter - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:52 PM

      Dumb buttholes tend to have dumb butthole thoughts.

      I wouldn’t worry too much about them.

      • cur68 - Jun 21, 2014 at 12:15 AM

        You got a way with the prose there, TFB. Can’t disagree with you though.

  12. chill1184 - Jun 20, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    Roenicke is being the bigger man in this one, beanball is just a distraction. As the old saying goes “dont stoop to someone else’s level”

  13. gosport474 - Jun 20, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    Good on Roenicke, and I say that as a Reds fan.

  14. pandorasdadca - Jun 20, 2014 at 5:51 PM

    He can say that all he wants after Lucroy went deep for a salami. If his guy K’s with the bases loaded, Paul Goldschmidt takes one in the ribs next time up.

    And his guys get hit a lot because they’re bags and he allows it. Prince Fielder and his exploding team after a walk-off a few years back against the Giants got Fielder nailed the following time he faced the Giants.

    And Liean Braun? I’m supprised he doesn’t collect at least one bruise per series.

    • gwhempel - Jun 20, 2014 at 6:30 PM

      Don’t like Fielder having some fun? Strike him out. Don’t like Gomez for enjoying himself? Get him to ground into a double play. Don’t like Braun for PED’s? Rob a home run from him.

      I’m positive that these guys making an out hurts them way more than giving them a free base does.

    • lifer124 - Jun 20, 2014 at 6:56 PM

      What is this line of thought where hitting someone with a baseball makes them feel bad about whatever they’ve done in the past that upset you? You think Fielder would have cared if he knew he would get hit with a pitch the next game? They get hit anyhow, they’re pro baseball players, they get hit all the time. Get hit with an inside pitch that got away, no one cares, take your base. Get hit with the same pitch but on purpose? HA take that you jerk, we got you good! Now go take your base anyhow. Please don’t score.

    • antaresrex - Jun 20, 2014 at 7:29 PM

      “If his guy K’s with the bases loaded, Paul Goldschmidt takes one in the ribs next time up.”

      Oddly enough, Goldschmidt came up in the ninth in a similar situation to Braun’s: trailing, two runners on, one out. The Brewers could have dinged him and dealt with Montero instead, if they really wanted to.

      Instead, they struck Goldschmidt out and got Montero to ground out for the win.

  15. blacksables - Jun 20, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    Nice guys. Finish last.

    • cur68 - Jun 21, 2014 at 12:18 AM

      Is there a stupid, small minded opinion you DON’T have?

      • blacksables - Jun 21, 2014 at 5:02 AM

        Dude, if you want to get into a pissing contest, I’l be your huckleberry.

        But right now, you’re deep into the middle of Operation Fortitude.

        I haven’t responded to anything you’ve said, and yet you feel the need to attack me for a question I asked of someone else, in order to expand my knowledge of a subject. Then, when you got put in your place, you found an excuse to come back and try again. That actually makes you the small-minded person

        If you’re too stupid, or not enough of a baseball fan (which you really aren’t) to understand the joke I made, that’s your issue. But I guess throwing out obscure references and demanding that people look them up is going to be your calling card, yet you can’t be bothered to look an obscure reference yourself.

        But keep up with the name calling. It makes you look so mature.

    • zzalapski - Jun 21, 2014 at 12:56 AM

      To date, Roenicke has a .530 winning percentage as manager. In the three full season that he’s led the Brewers, they have finished 1st, 3rd, and 4th; they are currently the best team in the National League.

      Try harder.

      • blacksables - Jun 21, 2014 at 5:04 AM

        You forgot to list their World Series titles.

        Try harder.

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