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Troy Tulowitzki sounds like he wants to be traded to a contender

Jul 5, 2014, 8:10 PM EDT

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By both versions of Wins Above Replacement, found at FanGraphs and at Baseball Reference, Rockies shortstop Troy Tulowitzki has been the National League’s most valuable player. Tulo’s great season, however, has been wasted as the slumping Rockies — having won only three of their previous 19 games — are now 37-51, just a game and a half ahead of the Diamondbacks for last place in the NL West.

As non-contending teams are wont to do, the Rockies will consider trading some of their expensive, established veterans to acquire younger players in order to compete in future seasons. Among the trade candidates are Tulowitzki and outfielder Carlos Gonzalez. As Mark Kiszla of the Denver Post reports, the shortstop misses the feel of competitive baseball:

“In Todd Helton, there’s someone who’s easy to look at his career here and how it played out. I have the utmost respect for Todd, but at the same time, I don’t want to be the next in line as somebody who was here for a long time and didn’t have a chance to win every single year,” said Tulowitzki, reviewing the 17 years Helton spent as the face of a franchise that never won a division title. “He played in a couple postseason games and went to one World Series. But that’s not me. I want to be somewhere where there’s a chance to be in the playoffs every single year.”

Over the past seven seasons since Tulowitzki became the Rockies’ everyday shortstop, the Rockies have made the playoffs twice: they were swept in the 2007 World Series by the Red Sox, and they were knocked out in the 2009 NLDS by the Phillies in four games. The club has won 74 or fewer games four times and appear to be well on their way to a fifth this season. One can understand Tulowitzki’s frustration.

Tulowitzki, 29, leads the league in all three triple-slash categories at .350/.441/.608. He has hit 18 home runs and driven in 47 runs, along with his usual Gold Glove-caliber defense. Tulowitzki is earning $16 million this season and is still owed $20 million in each season between 2015-19. He’ll earn $14 million in 2020 and has a $15 million 2021 club option with a $4 million buyout.

  1. Carl Hancock - Jul 5, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    Sounds like a perfect fit for the Cardinals. Move Carpenter back to 2nd, Peralta to 3rd and Tulo at SS. God knows they need the offense.

    • SocraticGadfly - Jul 5, 2014 at 11:34 PM

      Wrong. An injury-prone player with a relatively high contract. And, as we all (should) know, the Rockies were asking too much for Tulo, from the Cards at least, this past offseason.

      Besides, especially with Wong due back in St. Louis any time now, the Cards’ biggest bat problems are still in the OF.

      • hiflew - Jul 5, 2014 at 11:52 PM

        And the Cardinals fans were thinking they could get arguably the best player in the game for a middle reliever and backup third baseman.

        I hope the Cardinal trade rumors don’t start up again because they are ridiculous on both sides of the ledger.

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 6, 2014 at 12:31 AM

        @Hiflew Uhh, also wrong. I believe the Rockies were asking for TWO of the Cards’ young starting pitchers, and not limiting themselves to that.

      • tuberippin - Jul 6, 2014 at 2:03 AM

        ^For the best shortstop in baseball, regardless of injury history and contract, two pitching prospects is entirely fair. Note that the Rays were turning down the A’s for a deal that included one of the top 5-10 position prospects in the game (Addison Russell) and a back-end starter (Dan Straily) amongst other things.

        And if I recall correctly, St. Louis has had some recent success with an All-Star outfielder who spent the majority of his years in Colorado…

        But hey, continue to pretend like you know what’s best for your organization. Ignore the fact that they just tried to patch their gaping hole at shortstop with Jhonny Peralta, and ignore the fact that they have a wealth of young pitching to part with should they choose to upgrade the SS position.

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 6, 2014 at 11:43 AM

        Ignore that Peralta has twice as many defensive runs saved this year as Tulo, while doing what’s at least an above-serviceable job batting. Then join @hiflew in being clueless, while envious, about most Cardinals stuff. Maroon.

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 6, 2014 at 2:14 PM

        And, since Wong has now indeed been called back up, yet more “wrong” of a few people on this post. I love people accusing others of being clueless when they have no idea what they’re talking about.

  2. kiwicricket - Jul 5, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    Pretty sure you should of thought about that before signing a near decade long extension, Troy?

    • carpi2 - Jul 5, 2014 at 10:28 PM

      Now, will Tulo be willing to restructure his contract, if traded to a contender? Or is money his true, main motivator? If he chooses money; enjoy Colorado Buddy Boy!!

      • genericcommenter - Jul 5, 2014 at 11:14 PM

        He’s underpaid. Why would he need to restructure? I also find it interesting that the salary is lower the last couple years. If he’s even just a starting SS at age 35, his contract will be a relative bargain.

      • carpi2 - Jul 5, 2014 at 11:18 PM

        good point

      • kiwicricket - Jul 6, 2014 at 12:08 AM

        What does ‘restructure’ mean? Wrong sport, champ.

      • deadeyedesign23 - Jul 6, 2014 at 12:22 AM

        Yeah, this is baseball where labor doesn’t get totally ground to a nub by ownership. He won’t restructure because he can’t and shouldn’t have to. Every team in baseball would be lining up to pay Tulo that money on the open market. The issue is what do the Rockies want for him, which isn’t really his problem.

  3. dcbear90 - Jul 5, 2014 at 8:18 PM

    St. Louis will take you Troy.

    • SocraticGadfly - Jul 5, 2014 at 11:35 PM

      Wrong. The Cards didn’t this past offseason. The idea was considered, before Peralta was signed, but the Rockies wanted too much.

    • cohnjusack - Jul 6, 2014 at 1:29 AM

      Let’s all accept the fact anyone would take Troy for the right price…and that price is going to be *extremely* expensive in terms of players going the Rockies way.

  4. syphermce - Jul 5, 2014 at 8:22 PM

    The Rockies just need pitching…like most teams in baseball. Their lineup, when fully healthy, matches up well with most of the league, but because of the park the Rockies play in, finding the right pitchers is tough. Plus playing in the same division as the Giants and Dodgers hurts playoff chances as well.

    • paperlions - Jul 5, 2014 at 8:51 PM

      It’s really not that easy because of their park.

      There appears to be a real penalty for hitters with Coors as their home park. Their home road splits are even bigger than you would expect accounting for park factors.

      Plus, they will need MORE pitchers to be successful than your average team because at Coors it takes more pitches to get through games.

      That location/park is a severe competitive disadvantage.

      • clydeserra - Jul 5, 2014 at 9:20 PM

        this is a few years old, but interesting nonetheless.

        http://wooden-feather.com/?p=33

      • paperlions - Jul 5, 2014 at 9:29 PM

        1) Holy cow that is a lot of words

        2) Thankfully, there was a summary of it

        3) That is pretty dang interesting and kind of counter intuitive….yet, makes complete sense upon some reflection.

      • clydeserra - Jul 5, 2014 at 9:45 PM

        browse through the rest of that guys stuff. its all interesting. Unless its in coratian. don’t know what to think of that stuff

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 5, 2014 at 11:45 PM

        Interesting … especially with the sinker and the two-seamer.

  5. blackandbluedivision - Jul 5, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Only a matter of time before he ends up in pinstripes.

    • jdd428 - Jul 5, 2014 at 8:32 PM

      Sure, and I suppose you’ve got the perfect trade lined up for him. Something like Mason Williams, John Ryan Murphy and Gosuke Katoh. I’m sure Colorado would jump at something like that.
      *laying on the sarcasm as thick as possible*

      • Francisco (FC) - Jul 5, 2014 at 8:36 PM

        Let me get you a spoon.

      • Jeremy T - Jul 5, 2014 at 8:53 PM

        No, he’s right. He’ll be a perfect fit for the 2024 Yankees.

      • sportsfan18 - Jul 5, 2014 at 10:50 PM

        and the Phillies AFTER the Yanks in 2024

      • courtjester1234 - Jul 5, 2014 at 11:22 PM

        @sports fan, your comment shows how little you know. Rubin will have J-Roll locked up for another 5 yrs lol

    • Alex K - Jul 5, 2014 at 8:41 PM

      It could happen tomorrow. Of course, those pinstripes will be purple.

  6. ottawabrave91 - Jul 5, 2014 at 8:44 PM

    Please royals please make 2 or 3 big moves get a couple good hitters and maybe one starting pitcher to make the team as a whole COMPLETELY solid

  7. redpiratecaptain - Jul 5, 2014 at 8:52 PM

    Tulo’s contract eliminates any small market teams from dealing for him. Maybe the cards or tigers could trade for him. Can’t imagine anyone else.

  8. chiadam - Jul 5, 2014 at 9:44 PM

    It was wrong of the Rockies to put a gun to his head and force him to sign that contract.

  9. 7ftgriff - Jul 5, 2014 at 9:50 PM

    Seattle has the prospects and a future star at the same position in brad Miller. They could take on the money, brad Miller, Nick Franklin, Elias and some other pitching prospects for tulo.

    • clydeserra - Jul 5, 2014 at 9:59 PM

      holy crap that would be an expensive double play combination in 2016

      • jdd428 - Jul 5, 2014 at 10:23 PM

        It’s conceivable, but I would think Walker would have to be in that package along with Miller and Franklin.

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 5, 2014 at 11:48 PM

        That would definitely be an “in now” move in Seattle.

  10. thatguytml92 - Jul 5, 2014 at 10:48 PM

    Tigers should go for it. Give them scherzer and Iglesias

    • hiflew - Jul 6, 2014 at 12:10 AM

      A free agent rental and a guy with two broken legs? Man and here I thought only Cardinals fans had ridiculous low-ball offers.

    • SocraticGadfly - Jul 6, 2014 at 11:36 AM

      Yeah, that would be a great offer if it would give @hiflew a clue that he’s a reality-distorting idiot.

  11. miedwards - Jul 5, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    The Red Sox definitely have the prospects for a trade. It would be interesting to see who the Rockies would want in return. I think Ben needs to step up and get it done.

  12. somethgblue - Jul 5, 2014 at 11:20 PM

    I know several Colorado Rockies player’s and they all say the same thing that when the team struggles he is the first to get ‘injured’ and starts to dog it on he field. That he’s is the biggest Baby they have ever played with in their careers and that his attitude is a cancer in the clubhouse.

    Sure he is a great player when healthy but how many full seasons has he played? One out of seven sucks, he ain’t no Cal Ripken and even now he has sat out the last two games with the old mysterious leg injury that he always seems to get when the team starts losing. Maybe he should give the money back for all the games he has missed so the team can sign a quality starting pitcher.

    The Rockies have lost four of five starting pitchers and three full time all star bats in the line up, Cuddyer, Cargo and Arenado but when your team leader throws in the towel every year and starts crying like a little girl every time the chips are down, it is hard to keep a positive attitude in the clubhouse.

    Keep Cargo and jettison the Drama Boy for some quality pitching.

    • slappymcknucklepunch - Jul 5, 2014 at 11:59 PM

      Cool story Bro..Are you the Rockies weed man by any chance?

  13. jerze2387 - Jul 5, 2014 at 11:51 PM

    People seem to overlook the fact he has terrible home and away splits. Go check them out. I’ll wait.

    Avg is 50 points higher. Almost 80 more runs. Almost 100 more hits. 20 more hr. Almost 100 more RBI. 50 more ks.
    Ops 150 Pts. Obp 50 points. In almost identical games and plate appearances. Over about 500 games. Not insignificant numbers. And this season they’re even more extreme.

    So whoever gets him away from colors is going to be very disappointed. Haven’t people learned don’t trust the bad from the Rockies yet?

    Between the number differences, and the injury history and contract, and colors factor, his value should be in perspective.

    • hiflew - Jul 6, 2014 at 12:09 AM

      Why do you think it makes him a bad player to play better at home? Maybe he is used to the ball park. Maybe he prefers being cheered to being booed. Maybe his wife’s cooking is much better than room service. Or maybe it is the fact that a full 33% of his road games are played at Petco, AT&T, and Dodger Stadium, three of the strongest pitcher’s parks in the game. What people tend to forget when bad-mouthing Rockies hitter is that the rest of the NL West is full of offensively challenged stadiums.

      David Ortiz is a much better hitter at Fenway than on the road. Does that make him a bad player too? Or does your H/R split review only apply to Colorado hitters?

      • jerze2387 - Jul 6, 2014 at 12:46 AM

        Let’s ask brad hawpe, Clint Barnes, Ian Stewart, vinny Castillo, Dante bichette, Chris iannetta, Larry walker, Todd heltons career splits, and so on if they had better years at coors or not.

        Why don’t pitchers like pitching there?

        Coors isn’t a small park either. But the fact is altitude makes a difference, both on flight of the ball off the bat and due to less movement on pitches due to less air resistance. So it’s safe to say tulo
        Gets straighter pitches, and the ball flies further off his bat, at coors

  14. thomas844 - Jul 6, 2014 at 12:29 AM

    I want to fit in with the majority of comments here so I’ll just say this, “I think ____ should trade _____ and _____ for Tulo. It’ll be perfect!”

    • SocraticGadfly - Jul 6, 2014 at 12:34 AM

      I think Tampa Bay should trade David Price and Ben Zobriest for Tulo. There’s your effing blockbuster of the year. :)

  15. 461deep - Jul 6, 2014 at 2:11 AM

    Yankees will need a SS soon, plus in AL Tulo could DH some to save his legs. Maybe O’s will bite as Davis is not hitting. Red Sox do have chips & an inviting wall. Tigers offense-defense would roll with him. Give Yankees best shot as they will go hard for him with their best prospect Sanchez & others plus probably up Tulo’s contract. Tulo is a somewhat rare 5 tool infield player ala A-rod, Schmidt, & a young Omar.

    • jerze2387 - Jul 6, 2014 at 9:44 AM

      The best part of that is you said “ala arod” while trying to make a case FOR the Yankees getting him. How’d that whole arod thing work out for them? Not like they’ve been trying to get rid of him or anything

    • jwbiii - Jul 6, 2014 at 2:35 PM

      I’m trying to think of an Omar that hit for power. Sherman Omar Obando hit over 100 HRs in Japan, but that’s a pretty obscure reference and his low triples, SBs, and outfield assists suggest he was missing a few other tools.

  16. snarkk - Jul 6, 2014 at 8:22 PM

    Tulo, you’ve got a big ego. Your stats are no doubt skewed way up by hitting in that ridiculous Coors ballpark launching pad. Good luck having someone take your ridiculous contract to play at sea level…

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