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Update: It was Red Hot on David Price’s arm last night

Jul 7, 2014, 8:24 AM EDT

UPDATE: Didn’t see Price’s reply to a Twitter follower regarding this last night, but:

Red Hot is basically like Ben Gay or another topical ointment/cream/painkiller. So mystery, such as it is, solved.

8:24 AMSomeone who posts to Baseball Reddit posted a screencap from last night’s Rays-Tigers game showing  . . . something on David Price’s arm:


Dirt? Rosin + sweat? Possibly. Something else? I dunno. Also worth noting that it’s on his left arm and Price is a lefty. Which doesn’t mean that it couldn’t possibly be used on a ball — it could transfer to his glove and then on to the ball if he’s being slick about it — but it certainly does make it harder to get at it if, indeed, it is a foreign substance.

I do know that this picture, from Getty Images, taken during Price’s warmup tosses before the first inning, does not show anything:

source: Getty Images

Obviously he has not worked up a sweat yet here. And, of course, the lighting and everything is different. Pictures can be pretty deceiving.

I didn’t watch the game so I don’t have an opinion on his stuff or effectiveness and can’t say from one picture that Price was doing anything untoward. But I do know that smaller, less noticeable smudges have caused others to make accusations in the past. I’m curious to see if anyone does so today.

UPDATE: Just went back to to check on the game and, while his arm definitely (and obviously) got sweatier as the night went on, I can’t find anyplace which shows stuff on his arm like that screen cap does (and can’t find the exact place where that screencap came from).

So basically: all we have is a pic from an unknown time of the game showing something that could be something or could be nothing. If anyone can find it in the game broadcast, let me know.

  1. aresachaela - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:28 AM

    Uh oh… Well whatever it is I’d better not jump into conclusions… YET!!

    Meh, probably just some sweat.

  2. scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:31 AM

    If it was some foreign substance, the question really is, Would anyone care? I mean it’s not like he’s on steroids, a substance proven to allow players to break records and win the hearts of ladies. Should be on something more natural and legal like greenies. They are more American like!

    • aresachaela - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:39 AM



      • aresachaela - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:52 AM

        (Emoticon failed…)

    • sportsfan18 - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:44 AM

      the pitcher on the Yanks who got suspended would care if Price did the same as him and wasn’t suspended…

      Pineda of the Yanks was suspended for 10 games…

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:59 AM

        I’m well aware. I was actually referencing how little people seemed to care about Pineda’s incident, laughing it off as if it was nothing, and yet he media and fans wanted to crucify anyone even whispered to be connected with anything to do with steroids… The double standard is just too juicy to pass up.

      • scoochpooch - Jul 7, 2014 at 10:05 AM

        Probably because for years the batters were roiding even though they had been given every advantage of the same time period – harder ball, smaller strike zone, smaller park, etc.
        So maybe it’s the pitchers turn to cheat a little bit. That’s why people are turning their heads the other way.

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jul 7, 2014 at 10:55 AM

        So, it’s ok for pitchers to cheat but not for hitters to cheat? Where’s the logic in that? Also, your a fool if you think pitchers haven’t been cheating since the dawn of time. Just how many hall of fame pitchers are there who were known to doctor the ball on every pitch? Why some people get a pass and others get lambasted never ceases to amaze me. Either we are for cheating or against it. This wishy-washy crap has gotten old.

      • paperlions - Jul 7, 2014 at 11:32 AM

        Scooch, there is far more evidence that steroids help pitchers by allowing them to recover better from previous outings than there is evidence that steroids helped hitters. In addition, more pitchers have been busted for using steroids than hitters.

    • carpi2 - Jul 8, 2014 at 8:08 AM

      You’re right! Steroids are such a Soviet Union Olympic Team thing. Do greenies, like an American!

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jul 8, 2014 at 10:11 AM

  3. philliesblow - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:33 AM

    There’s nothing to see here, move along.

    – Kenny Rogers

    • daveitsgood - Jul 7, 2014 at 10:37 AM

      Islands in the stream
      That is what we are
      No one in between
      How can we be wrong
      Sail away with me
      To another world
      And we rely on each other, ah-ha
      From one lover to another, ah-ha

      -Kenny Rogers

  4. chacochicken - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:33 AM

    The better question is how did David Price get into that guy’s living room at the same time he was pitching? Sounds supernatural ergo, ectoplasm. Case closed.

    • indaburg - Jul 7, 2014 at 9:07 AM

      This is the most plausible explanation.

  5. scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:41 AM

    Maybe he was cleaning his bong between innings and forgot to wash his arm off?

    • unclemosesgreen - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:47 AM

      Looks more like hash oil production gone wrong – perhaps a centrifuge accident.

      • gregbeau - Jul 7, 2014 at 2:01 PM

        I think we can all agree it is weed-related though. Maybe he wiped off with that old weed-carrying pillowcase.

  6. joehahntpt - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:45 AM

    if that’s a foreign substance to help his grip, why is it on his pitching arm? Seems like an awkward hassle to touch most of your forearm like that…

  7. carpi2 - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:53 AM

    Just trying to boost his trade stock. That’s all.

  8. steve7921 - Jul 7, 2014 at 8:54 AM

    It is on his left arm…kinda a weird place to put a substance if you are a lefty.

  9. Caught Looking - Jul 7, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    Barbecue sauce from the pre-game meal.

  10. grumpyoleman - Jul 7, 2014 at 9:06 AM

    Almost looks like a Icy Hot type thing we used to use. Not sure if pitchers use that stuff once in awhile to loosen up some stiffness in their throwing arm though.

  11. chip56 - Jul 7, 2014 at 9:07 AM

    So basically: all we have is a pic from an unknown time of the game showing something that could be something or could be nothing. If anyone can find it in the game broadcast, let me know.

    My suggestion next time would be verifying before you post.

    • sabatimus - Jul 7, 2014 at 9:54 AM

      Look who you’re suggesting this to.

  12. carldispoto - Jul 7, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    Funny, I never noticed the huge floor lamp behind the center field wall in Detroit.

  13. rhett16 - Jul 7, 2014 at 9:25 AM

    Are these two pictures even from the same game/day? In one he has on an undershirt with a midlength sleeve, which doesn’t appear to be the case in the upper picture. (Of course, he could have changed undershirts at some point) Also, the facial hair looks a lot darker and grown in in the upper image, in the bottom image the guy barely has anything more than stubble length, especially the little soul patch above the chin which seems to have been completely grown over by whenever the top image was taken, lol.

  14. sabatimus - Jul 7, 2014 at 9:43 AM

    Heck, from that pic you can’t even tell it’s David Price. Where there’s smoke, there’s…smoke?

  15. kicksave1980 - Jul 7, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    Red Hot is, simply put, the BEST thing that you can use for muscle pain. It’s made by the same company as Atomic Balm (Cramer), and is even hotter. It’s the hottest thing I’ve ever used, but it really works. I believe Price here, because Red Hot is bright orange. You pretty much have to use junk t-shirts if you put it on your back, because the whole shirt will turn orange, and it’s Unwashable. It’s very greasy. Comparing this stuff to icy/hot is like comparing prescription pain pills to baby aspirin.

    • Caught Looking - Jul 7, 2014 at 11:50 AM

      “I put that %&*# on everything”, even my forearm

      Red Hot is used to make hot wings too!

    • grumpyoleman - Jul 7, 2014 at 1:15 PM

      I know what you mean. I couldn’t remember the stuff we used back then but pretty sure it was Atomic Balm after you mentioned it. We applied it with an applicator stick cause you didn’t want that stuff on your hands and eventually yours eyes or downstairs after going to the bathroom lol.

  16. aiede - Jul 7, 2014 at 4:08 PM

    From my vantage point in the ballpark last night, if Price was using something to get some more movement on the ball he failed badly. For all that the Tigers ended up not scoring many runs, they were making really solid contact all night long, albeit right at Rays defenders. Ben Zobrist alone had three lineouts straight at him, and there were a dozen fly outs or line outs that the game tracker characterized as “deep.”

    Price also ended up well under his K/9 average for the season, that to me doesn’t sound like somebody playing stickum or slickum games.

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