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Maybe they shoulda started Clayton Kershaw, you guys

Jul 15, 2014, 8:47 PM EDT

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MINNEAPOLIS, MN — So I’m up in the press box watching the first inning of the All-Star Game and another baseball writer — whose name I won’t reveal, but it rhymes with Schmo Emanski — suggests that maybe Adam Wainwright grooved the pitch that Derek Jeter hit for a leadoff double. It would definitely fit in with a night when everything is aimed at honoring The Captain.

But then Mike Trout tripled and Miguel Cabrera hit a homer that was not a cheapie.

Me: Wow.

Schmo: OK, maybe he’s not grooving it.

I know this is hindsight, but hindsight is an awful lot of fun when it meshes nicely with your preconceptions. So I’ll just say it: maybe Clayton Kershaw should’ve gotten the start after all?

UPDATE: Kershaw sets the American League down 1-2-3 in the second. He’s the best, folks. Maybe one day he’ll be a starter and not a reliever.

  1. bfunk1978 - Jul 15, 2014 at 8:49 PM

    Maybe he should have pitched better in the NLCS.

    • SocraticGadfly - Jul 15, 2014 at 11:23 PM

      And, now that a giant, constipated Dodger Dump has stinkified the premises (please, nobody complaining about whiny Cards fans after this), I’ll clear out of here for tonight.

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 15, 2014 at 11:29 PM

        And, per what Waino was just saying on Fox, his original comment was apparently satiric and nobody got it. Guess you have to have an IQ higher than Encino. 😛

      • uwsptke - Jul 16, 2014 at 9:56 AM

        That 87 MPH “fastball” to Jeter must have been pure satire as well. But I suppose non-Card fans wouldn’t understand that level of humor, right?

  2. aphillieated - Jul 15, 2014 at 8:50 PM

    Utley is still the man.

  3. happytwinsfan - Jul 15, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    Am I just being a dick, or was the pre game stuff God awful cheesy?

    • okwhitefalcon - Jul 15, 2014 at 8:57 PM

      Nope, God awful cheesy indeed.

    • aphillieated - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:06 PM

      Nah, you’re just keeping it real.

  4. padraighansen - Jul 15, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    Do not ever piss off the high priests of baseball, the St. Louis Cardinals…..the Dallas Cowboys of MLB.

    • spetznaz777 - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:00 PM

      Dallas Cowboys of MLB? how does that work?

      • bfunk1978 - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:08 PM

        You know, because the Cowboys have two SB wins and four total appearances the last 10 years.

      • Kevin S. - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:09 PM

        That’s unfair. St. Louis has actually won titles in the past twenty years and has generally been an above- .500 team.

      • spetznaz777 - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:10 PM

        i don’t think the Cardinals have ever been “America’s Team” in baseball either.

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:49 PM

        If anything, back in the Ted Turner days at least, the Braves tried to pass themselves off as America’s Team in baseball.

      • padraighansen - Jul 16, 2014 at 9:39 AM

        The self-adorned “Best fans in baseball” compared to the self-adorned “America’s Team”? Unlike the Cowboys, the Cardinals are successful, and if you don’t believe me, ask them – they will tell you. An uber-successful organization comprised of numerous douchebags and arrogant pricks…just like their fans. Douchebags and arrogant pricks: something the cardinals and cowboys have in common, along with the self-adorned nickname that no one outside of their bubble agrees with.

    • SocraticGadfly - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:10 PM

      Don’t even bring that weak crap in the lane, or I’ll swat it back to Syracuse. Nobdy with the Cards is even close to being like Jethro Jones.

    • renaado - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:31 PM

      And I thought it was the Yankees.

  5. okwhitefalcon - Jul 15, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    Maybe Puig should’ve caught the ball hit by Trout.

    Maybe someone besides Lester should’ve pitched the 2nd for the AL.

    Maybe Trout should’ve caught the ball by Lucroy.

    Maybe the Blogger in Chief is trolling.

    No maybe about the last one.

    • happytwinsfan - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:00 PM

      Definitely no Willie Mays type leather being flashed so far.

      Leave Craig alone. He’s still fighting acid reflux from that Jucy Lucy he unwisely consumed.

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:11 PM

        Are you kidding? He just took another hit at the self-serve beer machine.

        If he’s doing smuggled PBRs and Harry Carey imitations by the seventh-inning stretch, we’re in trouble.

    • stercuilus65 - Jul 15, 2014 at 10:22 PM

      Did you see how hard Trout tattoed that ball you pathetic homer?

  6. spetznaz777 - Jul 15, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    yeah yeah Craig the All Star Game is always a low scoring affair. its 3-2 already.

  7. disgracedfury - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:13 PM

    Wainwright gave him that pitch but not the others.Wainwright is like Greg Maddux….great pitcher until when it counts.

    • paperlions - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:20 PM

      Yeah, maybe if he struck out a guy to win the NLCS and then later struck out a guy to win the WS, we could respect his talents, but he only did that once. Slacker.

      • rkstevens111 - Jul 15, 2014 at 10:49 PM

        0-2 with a 4.50 ERA against the Red Sox.

      • paperlions - Jul 15, 2014 at 10:54 PM


        Kershaw was 0-2 with a 6.30 ERA against the Cardinals in the NLCS.

      • paperlions - Jul 15, 2014 at 10:57 PM

        Career post-season

        Wainwright 2.53 ERA over 67.2 IP

        Kershaw 4.23 over 38.1 IP

    • Sean Sandefur - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:25 PM

      Last time I checked Kershaw is the one with a 4.23 ERA in the postseason.

      • rkstevens111 - Jul 15, 2014 at 10:50 PM

        Last time I checked Wainwright choked against the Red Sox last year and went 0-2 with a 4.50 ERA.

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 15, 2014 at 11:20 PM

        Last I checked, one postseason series isn’t the entire postseason.

        Waino’s overall postseason ERA? 2.53

        Also, last I checked … Tom Neidenfuer and “Go crazy, folks.” 😛

        Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

      • scorpiox1960 - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:44 AM

        Last time I checked, I had to change my underwear.

    • SocraticGadfly - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:40 PM

      I would say something brilliant, but I was doing “Math for Pitchers by Counting Rings.”

      2 > 0, isn’t it?

      • rkstevens111 - Jul 15, 2014 at 10:54 PM

        26 years old 0 Cy Youngs, isn’t it?
        1 No Hitter > 0 No Hitters, isn’t it?

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 15, 2014 at 11:13 PM

        I’m sure Kershaw would trade that for just one of those 2 WS rings. #Fail. 4.23 #Fail.

      • stercuilus65 - Jul 16, 2014 at 4:47 AM

        For those 2 rings Waino pitched a grand total of three WS innings. WOW!

    • ereed1286 - Jul 15, 2014 at 11:12 PM

      how’s that kershaw doing in the postseason? how many rings does he have again?

    • spetznaz777 - Jul 15, 2014 at 11:43 PM

      yap he really fudged up closing the 06 world series….

  8. LIBERAL JUSTICE - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    Jeter > Ramierz, Aybar, or whatever crap SS you voted for…

  9. hushbrother - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:23 PM

    No way Wainwright would groove Jeter a pitch. And risk giving the AL a free run? The NL lost the All Star Game last year and Wainwright’s Cardinals had to open the World Series at Fenway Park. Think he doesn’t remember that?

    • bfunk1978 - Jul 15, 2014 at 10:50 PM

      Yeah that didn’t work out. Or maybe everyone believing Wainwright is working out. Who knows.

  10. happytwinsfan - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:30 PM

    If you think Jeter got grooved in the first according to some cheesy script, what about the hit in the third? This is starting to look like the guys really are trying. Some really really good players playing to win. Just wait until the pitchers get pissed off and decide to show their stuff.

    You want a real game for the all star game, bring it to Minny!

  11. devilsmetsgiants - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:30 PM

    What does it matter who starts or who grooved a pitch to whom? It’s the All Star Game! A fun exhibition for the fans! It doesn’t mean anything with regards to the real season.

    • happytwinsfan - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:38 PM

      What’s more “real” then the best players in the American League vs the best players in the National league trying to win a game, not for money, not for playoff standings but for professional pride?

      Hey thumb harpie, how about you grab the vaseline and go to your favorite porn site.

      • happytwinsfan - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:43 PM

        I should have said, I didn’t mean you by thumb harpie devilsmetsgiants. thumb harpie is some disgruntled adolescent (psychologically if not biologically) who periodically swoops in with multiple sign in’s to down thumb his perceived transgressors.

  12. JuniorGriffey'sRecliner - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:31 PM

    Maybe they should have started Simon…

  13. bfunk1978 - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    Verducci just said there’s no bigger test of LHP than Chris Sale. What say you Craig?

  14. swmocardsfan - Jul 15, 2014 at 9:44 PM

    Man it’s a shame Wainwright cost the NL the game…oh wait…

    • stercuilus65 - Jul 15, 2014 at 10:23 PM

      Wait?Take away three runs and guess who is in the lead?

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 15, 2014 at 11:09 PM

        I’m just a poor dumb Cards fan. I can’t count to three. Heh, heh, heh.

    • bfunk1978 - Jul 15, 2014 at 10:52 PM

      No, no, Neshek did that. Great night for the birds on the bats.

  15. uuddlrlrbastart - Jul 15, 2014 at 10:20 PM

    Don’t worry you guys, they got Tyler Clippard in there. If anything is going to bring relevance back to the All Star Game it’s more middle relievers!

  16. weaselpuppy - Jul 15, 2014 at 10:45 PM

    So what we should take away from the 1st inning is that Miggy is a little bit better than Trout :)

  17. normcash - Jul 15, 2014 at 10:53 PM

    Neither manager had much luck with his own team’s pitchers. Matheny starts Wainwright
    and he gives up 3. Then he goes to Neshek who gives up two. Farrell uses Lester and he gives up 2….

  18. myballshaveseams - Jul 15, 2014 at 11:26 PM

    The difference between Kershaw & Wainwright…miniscule.
    The gulf between Posnanski & Craig…Multitudes.

  19. notsofast10 - Jul 15, 2014 at 11:42 PM

    Hey if home field advantage doesn’t mean anything because your team sucks, go ahead and exercise homerism and pitch your own pitchers where they shouldn’t be and lose the game.

    Cardinal Pitchers gave up all 5 runs! Nice

  20. hotkarlsandwich - Jul 15, 2014 at 11:54 PM

    It’s pretty cool you got to talk to Tom Emanski’s brother in the press box tonight. Say hi to the crime dogg if you see him too.

  21. brewcrewfan54 - Jul 16, 2014 at 12:07 AM

    Lotta Cards fans used Twitter to blame Lucroy for his lousy pitching tonight. Not that it should surprise anyone. They are all morons though.

  22. b12071 - Jul 16, 2014 at 12:22 AM

    Great move by Matheny picking Neshak over Strassburg and Fister. Brilliant!

  23. jimmyt - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:23 AM

    “another baseball writer”??? That’s rich, just keep on telling yourself that.

  24. bbk1000 - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:08 AM

    Neshak was a joke of a pick……Wainwright was just a joke…

    These games need hard throwers, the manager cost the NL the game.

    I’m pissed, because if the Mets make it to the series they won’t have home field advantage…..well, never mind…not that big a deal.

    • West Madison's town Whore - Jul 16, 2014 at 10:12 AM

      Neshek has an .70 era and hasnt given up a run since april, yea i guess that is a joke. Wainwright is one of the best pitchers in the game. Its the All-star game, hitters are going to hit, they are the best in the world for a reason

      • bbk1000 - Jul 16, 2014 at 4:19 PM

        Neshek is a joke, his style only fools bad hitters…he should have been left off the roster.

        Wainwright isn’t nearly as good as Kershaw, who should have started.

        There were a number of pitchers more suited to pitch against the AL than Wainwright who didn’t make the roster….Greg Maddox was in the same category….

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