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Ryan Howard does not seem too happy about platooning

Jul 24, 2014, 5:32 PM EDT

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Ryan Howard was benched today and it looks like he’ll be a platoon player for a good while. After the game reporters tried to talk to him about it. Howard wasn’t too talkative:

“Talk to him,” he said after the game, referring to Sandberg. “Bye. Talk to the manager.”

He’s an athlete so he’s obviously competitive and it’d probably be more surprising if he did want to expound on not being allowed to play as much as he’d like. But you do have to wonder if this is creating any bad blood between Howard and Sandberg. Or Sandberg and his overwhelmingly veteran team.

 

  1. stan97 - Jul 24, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    He’s lucky to even have a job.

    No competent GM would have given him that ridiculous contract. And he was already going bad BEFORE that contract was offered by Amaro – worst GM in baseball.

  2. bisonaudit - Jul 24, 2014 at 5:39 PM

    I don’t think I’d be losing any sleep over pissing off some of the Phillies veterans. By the time they’re ready to win again all of those guys are going to be gone.

  3. wjarvis - Jul 24, 2014 at 5:41 PM

    Maybe pissing off veterans is the plan so that they’ll agree to be traded.

  4. schmedley69 - Jul 24, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    Who cares if there’s any bad blood? Sandberg doesn’t owe these guys anything. They have made his first full year as a big league manager a complete embarrassment. If Howard doesn’t like it, he can retire and forfeit his remaining salary.

  5. phillyphan215 - Jul 24, 2014 at 5:48 PM

    Cry me a river. You made $125 million dollars off of being one of the laziest players I’ve ever seen. Ever since 2009, the book has been out on Howard: He’s got terrible discipline, and if you pitch around him he is so stupid he will actually get himself out. Lefties and offspeed pitches low and away, forget about it.

    Howard is getting paid $25 mil and never put in the effort to improve his game.
    Articles about Howard in the film room? Unheard of.
    Articles about Howard putting in extra time to improve against LHP? Nonexistent.
    Articles about Howard working on not hitting into the shift? No, but there are some where he whines about it and says the times he does hit into it are “basically hits”.
    Articles about Howard putting in the time to improve plate discipline? File under “missing”.

    And now he whines and moans because FINALLY, a manager has held his fat worthless butt accountable? A message should have been sent to that turd years ago!

    • moogro - Jul 25, 2014 at 11:07 AM

      What’s in a film room?

  6. wisbadgfan - Jul 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM

    It is time for a total detonation of the Phillies.

    Misguided contracts, lack of chemistry, and a total lack of production have killed this team.

    Its not like the Phillies are pulling the plug on Howard after one bad slump. It has been a couple of seasons during which he has struggled. A 34 year old struggling first baseman who shows no signs of a resurgence——time for the Phillies to move on.

  7. jcmeyer10 - Jul 24, 2014 at 6:00 PM

    Well it’s not like what they were doing before was working.

  8. geejon - Jul 24, 2014 at 6:18 PM

    Maybe he and Matt Kemp can get together and bitch about how much and where in the field they’re playing while each collect over $20mil per to stink up the joint.

    • xmatt0926x - Jul 24, 2014 at 6:31 PM

      Matt Kemp is bleeping Hank Aaron compared to Ryan Howard.

  9. xmatt0926x - Jul 24, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    Gosh…I hope Ryno’s decision doesn’t cause any tension in the locker room with the veterans. If it does, they could become distracted and underperform. Then they would be a real bad team with no energy….. OH FU*KING WAIT!!!

  10. xmatt0926x - Jul 24, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    I’m forgetting which reporter it was, but I’m pretty sure it was Buster Olney who mentioned that he was told by an AL exec that Howard may be worth $3 to 5 million to an AL team. He makes $25 million for the next 2 years after this horrid year with another $10 million as a buyout in the 3rd year.

    Geez I hope that he’s not too sore that the manager dare to platoon him. I guess Howard has a point. He does have 1 homerun in his last 100+ atbats. Throw in THREE doubles and you can see why Ryan thinks he deserves to be in there everyday.

    • Caught Looking - Jul 24, 2014 at 7:04 PM

      He’d have more value sitting home watching Platoon.

  11. greymares - Jul 24, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    We certainly have a bunch of intelligent people posting about the 2nd leading HR hitter in club history. A guy that THIS YEAR is tied for 6th in the National League in RBIs.That’s pretty damn good production for a .230 hitter. Without researching that’s about 8 cleanup hitters behind him. It’s funny that no one would have signed this guy at that time when in reality everybody would have. I can’t even go bananas on Amaro because I think he is the front man for the ownership group that’s really pulling the strings. The man is doing what he’s told like all of us when the boss speaks.unfortunately this group is listening to a bunch of fans that would have a hard time telling you which side of a baseball has the seams on it. Back to Howard if you take his lifetime contributions and lifetime pay the Phillies got a hell of a deal.

    • xmatt0926x - Jul 24, 2014 at 6:49 PM

      “if you take his lifetime contributions and lifetime pay the Phillies got a hell of a deal”- You just totally invalidated your whole post. And then you take any blame away from Amaro on top of it? Wow.

    • chew1985 - Jul 24, 2014 at 6:49 PM

      Greymares–Howard is out of gas this year and there are more than 2 months left. He was not worth anywhere near what he was paid the first 4 months of the season. For $150 million plus the Phillies got almost 5 highly productive seasons; a year and a half of injuries, and 2 Dave Kingman specials–that’s barely hitting your weight but popping a decent number of useless bombs when the pressure is NOT on.

      The Phillies did not get a good deal any way you slice it.

      • greymares - Jul 24, 2014 at 8:35 PM

        You don’t win that World Series without him. By the way everybody wanting Howard gone are expecting Ruf. And or Franco to take his place. I live in Allentown and see most Iron Pigs home games. THEY CANT PLAY.

      • wjarvis - Jul 24, 2014 at 8:59 PM

        Yes, Howard had some great years and I don’t think many people complain about the 3 year deal he signed in 2009, after they won the world series. He underperformed for that contract too, but at least you could defend it when he signed it. The problem was that even though he was signed for 2 more full seasons they gave him a 5 year extension in 2010.

    • Francisco (FC) - Jul 24, 2014 at 6:51 PM

      We certainly have a bunch of intelligent people posting about the 2nd leading HR hitter in club history. A guy that THIS YEAR is tied for 6th in the National League in RBIs

      Aaaand, I can stop reading now.

    • hank10 - Jul 24, 2014 at 7:11 PM

      Maybe you should research some facts on the Missing Piece’s offensive output. Courtesy of Ryan Lawrence’s article in today’s Daily News:

      Howard’s RBI total is somewhat misleading, since he has also come to bat with a player in scoring position in 116 of his at-bats this season, more than any other player in baseball. More telling are his .377 slugging percentage, a startling, near-200 point drop from his .571 in 2009, and his .682 OPS, which ranks 126th out of 160 qualifying major league hitters this season.

      You were saying?

      http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20140724_Ruf_inserted_into_Phillies__lineup_for_Ryan.html#tVaIvUMQTFSOms1E.99

      • xmatt0926x - Jul 24, 2014 at 7:15 PM

        Hank, go away with your facts!! That’s so un-Ruben like to actually refer to data to back up your points. Aren’t you a real fan?

      • Joe - Jul 25, 2014 at 9:37 AM

        Yeah, his slugging percentage is dangerously close to Ben Revere’s–the guy who’s hit one home run in his entire career.

    • Uncle Charlie - Jul 24, 2014 at 9:12 PM

      Hahaha RBI leaders, tell that to Brandon Phillips to cheer his a$$ up.

    • Joe - Jul 25, 2014 at 9:55 AM

      This group isn’t listening to anybody. They’re simply finally accepting the reality that their first baseman is no longer a major league caliber player, and, combining the lack of production with the totally bloated contract, is just killing the team’s abitlity to re-build or, if you’re Amaro, “re-tool.”

      Also, re your comment below about Franco. The guy is 21 and has been in AAA for half a season. Might be a bit early to declare him a bust.

  12. andreweac - Jul 24, 2014 at 7:45 PM

    I guess Ruben Amaro’s online alias is “greymares”. Good to know.

    • greymares - Jul 24, 2014 at 8:21 PM

      Ha ha nope I’m just a Philly fan that has lived long enough to see about 5000 of the 10,000 losses. This is a great team compared to many I’ve seen

      • Uncle Charlie - Jul 24, 2014 at 9:14 PM

        You ain’t seen nothin yet.

  13. nottinghamforest12 - Jul 24, 2014 at 9:30 PM

    Typical attitude for his kind.

  14. edelmanfanclub - Jul 24, 2014 at 9:41 PM

    Be humble dude. Youve obviously fallen off a cliff, they’ve tried to keep you in there due to your past success, but it can only go on for so long.

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