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Chris Archer is unhappy David Ortiz admired his three-run home run

Jul 27, 2014, 6:55 PM EDT

Chris Archer AP

The Rays and Red Sox haven’t exactly been buddy-buddy this season. On May 25, the two teams were combatants in a benches-clearing brawl, as the Red Sox didn’t enjoy Yunel Escobar stealing third base with a five-run lead in the seventh inning. The next weekend, the AL East rivals had a beanball war which forced the Red Sox to go four-deep on their manager depth chart.

Here’s some more fuel to the fire. Red Sox DH David Ortiz belted a three-run home run in the top of the third inning off of Rays starter Chris Archer, giving the Sox a 3-0 lead. Ortiz, as he often does, admired his handiwork before jogging around the bases. Watch the homer:

After the game, Archer expressed displeasure with Ortiz’s self-admiration:

Ortiz fired back:

  1. johnnysoda - Jul 27, 2014 at 6:57 PM

    Remember when pitchers used to not complain about stuff like this? It was far more tolerable.

    • lphboston - Jul 27, 2014 at 10:36 PM

      Too bad Ortiz did not have to bat against Don Dyrsdale

      • lphboston - Jul 27, 2014 at 10:37 PM


      • jwbiii - Jul 27, 2014 at 11:14 PM

        Drysdale hit a batter for every 94 BFP.
        Archer hits a batter for every 82 BFP.

        Thanks for playing.

      • nbjays - Jul 28, 2014 at 6:44 AM

        Perhaps, but if you showed up Drysdale, he WOULD set you on your ass the next at-bat. That was a given. Those numbers you quote have more to do with lack of control than with intent.

  2. tfbuckfutter - Jul 27, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    What makes him think he can showboat like that is hitting your pitch out of the park, kid.

    • SocraticGadfly - Jul 27, 2014 at 9:56 PM

      At the same time … “Players today are too sensitive”? Did Ortiz look in the mirror? Did he say it when no official scorers were around?

      That said, that wasn’t that bad of a delay-and-look.

      And, was the Trop full? Wow. Of course, how many were Boston fans?

      • zackd2 - Jul 27, 2014 at 10:12 PM

        That’s the most fascinating part of this story. Ortiz saying OTHER players are too sensitive. Wow.

      • ryanw822 - Jul 27, 2014 at 11:13 PM

        not as many as you’d think.

        Boston fans go into hiding when they arent good. Same for Yankee fans at the Trop.

      • tfbuckfutter - Jul 27, 2014 at 11:22 PM

        I remember Wade Boggs had a habit of arguing balls and strikes. The general consensus was that if anyone had that right it was him.

        I’d say veteran superstars are afforded a bit more slack in this department than guys who were still eating Count Chocula and watching Power Rangers when the aforementioned superstar was cranking out 40 homers.

        Unwritten rules don’t say Ortiz can’t admire a homer. They say a guy who may still be carrying his v-card don’t have the right to question him.

  3. Caught Looking - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    I guess Chris Archer has a short memory of himself showboating:

    • weareluckytohavemikeflorio - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:06 PM

      also in that clip he is LOSING 2 nothing and is looking back while he goes off the field.
      chris, grow up lil man.
      caught looking
      thanks for that clip

      • Bob Loblaw - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:16 PM

        He also KISSES HIS BICEP Capernek(?) style like he just threw a Touchdown pass!! Chris Archer, you win the dumb ass of the year award.

    • Bob Loblaw - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:14 PM

      Lame that this video isnt being played EVERYWHERE. They should update this blog post with this video to show how utterly stupid Chris Archer looks.

    • indaburg - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:45 PM

      I’m a Rays fan, and I thought that act from June of last year, Archer’s rookie year, was over the line. My reaction when I saw that live was “he’s going to get someone hurt.” Fortunately, although he is an emotional guy, he hasn’t repeated that little performance.

  4. rcali - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    Somebody call the Wahhhhhhhhmbulance for Mr. Archer.

  5. watermelon1 - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:12 PM

    Baltimore fan, so naturally I root against Ortiz and boston.

    But REALLY? If you don’t want him to do this, then don’t let him rock your pitch out of the park.

    He’s a big guy… He’s not going to turn the after burners on like he’s trying to beat out a single. He threw his bat and started jogging. Big deal. Not like there was some celebratory dance or anything.

    • indaburg - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:05 PM

      It was a little worse than this video showed. I was at the game and I saw it. The video didn’t show it, but he paused and stared down the Rays catcher after flipping his bat and before starting his slow jog with stutter steps (perhaps he tripped?) around the bases. I don’t care–it’s just typical Ortiz behavior. Archer just comes off bad saying anything.


  6. renaado - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:15 PM

    Ortiz: “Players today are too sensitive. I’ll leave it at that.”

    Right… And he’s no different from em.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 27, 2014 at 9:28 PM

      Especially when the official scorer doesn’t see things the way Ortiz does.

  7. djdvd - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:20 PM

    Ortiz is one of the biggest crybabies in the league right now, so don’t stoop to his level Archer. Try not giving up home runs to him next time. Or perhaps tell him to admire last place. Just don’t cry about your mistake man.

    • Bob - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:24 PM

      Yeah, maybe Ortiz could not be an ass when he hits HRs. There’s a phrase of “act like you’ve done it before.” It applies to someone like Ortiz, though no one can be sure how many of his 400-plus HRs have been/are chemically enhanced. Maybe that’s why he doesn’t act like he’s done it before.”

  8. airedale1950 - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    Simple. everytime he showboats…next time up, put one in his ear. I realize he isn’t too high on the bright chart, but by the fifth time he is clipped…he just might get the hint. OLD SCHOOL !

    • Kevin S. - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:35 PM

      Give him first base while getting yourself ejected and suspended? Brilliant plan, that.

      • gobuxfla - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:46 PM

        It will take him 10 minutes to run to first base as the fat slob really can’t get it done without his Hoveround.

        Archer was wrong because he gave up the shot. However when the last series between Boston and TB occurs, there will be a lot of sore Red Sox from the bean balls.

    • indaburg - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:11 PM

      Potentially injure someone and give them a baserunner for hurting your feelings? Just strike his sizable butt out and win the game. That’s the best revenge.

  9. slaugin - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    Any other sport it’s ok to showboat a big play…Football-Endzome celebration, Hockey/Soccer-Goal celebration, Basketball – Flashy Dunks but God forbid you show emotion in baseball

    • brandotho - Jul 28, 2014 at 11:13 AM

      It’s actually not OK to showboat in any other sport. In college and the NFL you get fined for excessive celebration, in college and the NBA you can get called for technical fouls. Hockey players have the whole unwritten rules thing too, and they go after the French Canadian and European players for not playing like Anglophone Canadians and Americans.

  10. doctorofsmuganomics - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    “Ortiz: “Players today are too sensitive. I’ll leave it at that.””

    Didn’t big papi have a huge tit fit a while back

    • indaburg - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:54 PM

      Awhile back? Depends which fit you are referring to.

    • sportsfan18 - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:03 PM

      Yes he did whine a bit ago, about multiple topics.

      He did so because he’s too sensitive.

      It appears that when Papi says players in the game are too sensitive, he exempts himself like out politicians do from the medicine they give to us.

      Did Archer whine? Yes. But Papi is NOT innocent either.

      Papi is doing a good job of lowering how folks feel about him. I’m an N.L. fan, a Cubs fan and I was always lukewarm on Papi, didn’t root for or against him.

      Now, I’m sick of him thinking when something happens, it’s always the other team, the pitcher, the scorekeeper, or us fans as we’ll get on him for not producing so that’s why he wanted to be credited for a hit.

      Papi, it’s YOU, not us. Also, some of the guys you played against ARE whining, like Archer. But does that make it OK for you to whine too?

      You said he’s been in the league for 2 days and to me that means he hasn’t learned and we could forgive him for doing so.

      But you’re a seasoned veteran Papi. What’s your excuse?

  11. rhannah78 - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:42 PM

    The Rays have a massive inferiority complex. They’ll take exception to you looking at them the slightest bit funny!

  12. thegoods24 - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:43 PM

    David Ortiz saying players are too sensitive now a days…now that’s irony at its finest

  13. pisano - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:44 PM

    If Archer sends one at his head he’ll get Archers message. God help Ortiz if he’d have done that trot to Don Drysdale or Bob Gibson.

    • tfbuckfutter - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:59 PM

      Go home, grandpa. You’re drunk.

      • bkbell3 - Jul 28, 2014 at 6:19 AM

        I got to agree, when ever this comes up someone mentions gibson or drysdale etc., like no one back then could charge the mound and kick their butt or throw the bat at them etc. This crap that a pitcher can play lawman and not suffer the consequences is stupid. The same as giving chin music because a guy is legally standing in the batters box and is supposed to be afraid to crowd the plate so the pitcher puts in under his chin to take back the inside part of the plate. Then cry when batters wear elbow or hand pads so his season won’t end by getting hit. I think under the right circumstances I would be so nervous and my hands so sweaty that my bat just might slip out of my hands in terror and send it helicoptering close to the pitcher’s head. So like a batter supposed to be afraid of diving into the pitch now maybe the pitcher also has to be afraid of diving into his pitch and following through. Sounds fair to me esp. when the best hitters in the game fail 70% of the time
        and pitchers still want more advantage.

    • jwbiii - Jul 27, 2014 at 11:38 PM

      Gibon hit a batter for every 158 BFP.
      Drysdale hit a batter for every 94 BFP.
      Archer hits a batter for every 82 BFP.

      • nbjays - Jul 28, 2014 at 7:19 AM

        Nice numbers, but they don’t say a thing about “intended” hit batters, all they tell us is that Bob Gibson and Don Drysdale had better control than Chris Archer. A lot of the batters that Drysdale or Gibson threw at didn’t get hit, they were too busy bailing out of the box, but they DID get the message.

  14. scoobies05 - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    did David Ortiz really complain about others being too sensitive?

    –Orioles clubhouse phone

    • bkbell3 - Jul 28, 2014 at 6:21 AM

      nice lol

  15. drewzducks - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    Bigger than the game and showboat? Ortiz yes, Archer’s teammate last season?

  16. sidelineshot - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:22 PM

    Archer … so you could make a pitch and throw a slick slider tailing away from the batter, and get to see the ball all the way to the catcher’s mitt.

    And … Big Papi smacks a ball right on the sweet spot (very hard to do), hits it in the upper deck. Now you are telling me …. the dude can’t watch the flight path of that ball ??? LMAO

    I know the answer … you didn’t get to see what you wanted to see.

  17. irishlad19 - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:34 PM

    Hissy-fit; come on, girls, play ball.

  18. yahmule - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:43 PM

    I like Chris, but the young man’s biggest problem is overthinking. He was on a pretty nice run coming into this game, but his own emotions are always his biggest enemy.

  19. annapterp - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:45 PM

    Ortiz is the biggest hypocritical fraud in sports. I don’t understand why the national media loves this jerk. That said, Archer shouldn’t complain too much now, just stick one in his ear next time and then explain why afterwards.

    • drewzducks - Jul 27, 2014 at 9:23 PM

      Archer isn’t that stupid. Now Machado, that’s a different story altogether.

      • bkbell3 - Jul 28, 2014 at 6:25 AM

        Drew, i agree but the problem with machado is he always gets his butt whooped and his teammates have to bail him out. lol

  20. drewsylvania - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    The Rays are like the Canadiens. The whining & sniping never cease.

    • jimeejohnson - Jul 28, 2014 at 7:06 AM

      Milan Lucic is the biggest jerk in sports. No coincidence he plays for Boston.

  21. tigersfandan - Jul 27, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    “Ortiz: “Players today are too sensitive. I’ll leave it at that.””

    He’s right, you know. Some players are so sensitive that they smash dugout phones and complain about official scoring decisions.

  22. nclrbrt - Jul 27, 2014 at 9:50 PM

    If you don’t want guys to admire upper-deck shots, don’t throw gopher balls, schmuck.

    • annapterp - Jul 27, 2014 at 10:27 PM

      Giving up the homerun wasn’t the issue. It was the big fraud’s preening, standing, and watching after he hit it. Just jog the bases and act like a professional for a change. And he’ll be the first to complain when he gets pitched inside or hit for it.

      • raynman49 - Jul 27, 2014 at 10:32 PM

        Lifetime Sox fan. Ortiz act is getting stale. If he was on another team, I’d hate him.

  23. pshieldssports - Jul 27, 2014 at 10:36 PM

    Reblogged this on PShields Sports and commented:
    Well here’s a big surprise: a member of the Red Sox and a Tampa Bay Rays pitcher don’t see eye-to-eye

  24. ch0psuey - Jul 28, 2014 at 12:22 AM

    Ortiz needs to be plunked. Sorry, but he think’s he invulnerable to retaliation, pitchers need to throw him high and in to show him he’s not immune to a heater to his back.

    • ch0psuey - Jul 28, 2014 at 12:23 AM

      “he is” sorry.

  25. wilmyers09 - Jul 28, 2014 at 1:29 AM

    all u guys saying archer was stupid and should not be complaining ,not even the best pitchers in baseball like for hitters to stare at homers like idiots like ortiz did, just jog around the bases dont be an a$$ and stand in batters box for 5 seconds

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