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The Dodgers are out on Lester, Price and Hamels

Jul 30, 2014, 2:32 PM EST

The Dodgers have been mentioned prominently in every rumor involving the big pitching names on the trade market, partially because they have the money and partially because they have the prospects. But Peter Gammons reports that they are NOT willing to part with big prospects and thus are out of the running for the big arms:

Well, the Dodgers rotation is still strong, so it’s not like any of those guys were truly needed. At the same time, retaining top prospect Pederson gives them the outfield flexibility to deal Matt Kemp or Carl Crawford either now or at some later date.

Seems to me now that the Dodgers could use bullpen help more than anything. And it sounds like that what they’re focusing on.

  1. redpiratecaptain - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:35 PM

    So that leaves the pirates and brewers pretty much. The pirates have a stronger system but the brewers are probably more desperate.

    • ejheim62 - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:42 PM

      I don’t think the Pirates are a player for any of them. $$$ is the key factor here. This is a team that’s trying to get to the playoffs, and they won’t – shouldn’t mortgage the farm for a shot at the playoffs. None of those players will go cheap, and they would all be rentals. The Pirates wouldn’t pay Burnett after two pretty decent years, they wouldn’t pay these guys, either. I hope it doesn’t happen.

      • apkyletexas - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:04 PM

        The various analyst services all have the Pirates with about a 60% shot at the playoffs right now, so it’s actually likely they make it.

        Lester could become a #1 for a Pirates run in the playoffs. Could be interesting.

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:21 PM

        If not $$$, the Sawks asking price on Lester as a rental still seems high.

  2. jfk69 - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    Should have saw this coming after Kemps big night

    • mikhelb - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:19 PM

      *seen.

      And yes, they could now move Kemp after last night’s display of power, but it would be more of a move to save money than aything else when they are moving a controlled player in Kemp for a rental who could very well sign with the redsox at year’s end.

  3. ejheim62 - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    so the official word is the Dodgers are out. You know that means by 4:01 tomorrow, they’ll have Lester, Price AND Hamels on their roster!

    • bairdmartin31 - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:53 PM

      For a collection of AA stiffs, Carl Crawford and Andre Ethier

  4. paint771 - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    And the Cardinals pick up a mid rotation starter on the cheap.

    Seems to me the market for Price, Lee, Lester et al just cratered significantly.

    • perryt200 - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:51 PM

      Which makes me think the Cards might not be all the way out of it. If you are going to buy something, it is nice to be able to lower the price first.

      • bairdmartin31 - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:54 PM

        By all accounts, if they want any of those guys, they are going to have to deal Wong and Shelby Miller.

      • SocraticGadfly - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:23 PM

        @Baird: Wong ain’t getting dealt. Miller, quite possibly.

    • SocraticGadfly - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:24 PM

      “Mid-rotation” is a very generous phrase to use for Masterson. If Wacha weren’t injured, Masterson would probably be called a “Memphis starter” in St. Louis.

    • stercuilus65 - Jul 30, 2014 at 7:57 PM

      Masterson “mid-rotation”? Only if your rotation really sucks. He got shelled by AZ…AZ!

  5. tfbuckfutter - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    So…they COULDN’T get a frontline starter and get the other team to take Kemp and his entire contract?

    Impossible.

    • mikhelb - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:23 PM

      Uhm… but in reality the bosux were not asking for Kemp, they wanted the rookies. It would be dumb to move Kemp+Pederson, for example, which is one of the players the sox wanted, and in reality even moving Urias or Seager was an overpay, though for Boston it would mean they’d finally get somebody good to play at SS since… well… Nomar, every year their fans claim they have the best SS… IN THE WORLD! and end up with a crappy player.

  6. greymares - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    So literally the Dodgers are out. They can’t win it all as constituted.

    • ewyorksockexchange - Jul 30, 2014 at 6:12 PM

      I think the phillies showed that if you have one good ace and a ton of pitching dreck, you can win a World Series. If the offense and pitchers get going, anything can happen. The dodgers clearly have an ace, and solid pitching with grienke and Beckett. That will be a huge asset during a post season run. If they can add some bullpen arms, I think they have a legit shot at winning it all. If they deal with the phils, I think bastardo for some mid level prospects would be a prudent deal. We shall see.

    • stercuilus65 - Jul 30, 2014 at 7:57 PM

      ACtually two aces with Kershaw and Greinke.

  7. mikhelb - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    I think the only way for the Dodgers to trade their three MiLB blue chips would be for Lester to accept to reach a deal for an extension with the Dodgers, the LAD would be dumb not to ask that, and if they did and Lester refused, then giving any of Urías (whom the sox were close to signing when his tryouts were held in Sinaloa), Seager or Pederson would be overpaying for a mere rental.

    • mikhelb - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:28 PM

      *showcase, not tryouts. His dad contacted teams from the Mexican Pacific League to have his kid held a showcase in return for a cut of his deal with a MLB team (the cut was divided to pay the Mexican Summer League, which has a monopoly on players that can be sold to the US, MLB doesn’t accept players who are not sold by the summer league, and that league asks for 75-80% of a kid’s check aaand they set the price).

      • mikhelb - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:30 PM

        *hold not held… man my frigging cellphone and its tiny keyboard is killing me.

  8. paperlions - Jul 30, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    I wouldn’t be surprised if none of those guys were moved because teams are asking for too much for any of them.

    Talent is the limiting asset in MLB, not money….but teams still shouldn’t pay twice for someone (like the Phillies want for Hamels), or give up 7 years of control of an elite prospect for a 2 month rental (like Boston wants for Lester), or give up 7 years of control of multiple elite prospects for 1.3 years of Price (like Tampa wants).

    Each of those guys move the winning the WS needle about 1-2% for a team…that’s not enough for the prices being asked….especially from teams that expect to compete each year that won’t mortgage the future for the present (like LA and StL).

  9. sportsfan18 - Jul 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM

    The Dodgers have aces.

    Clayton is the BEST pitcher in the game. Due to this, NO other team has a better starting pitcher heading up their rotation.

    Zack Greinke is probably the best #2 pitcher in the game right now. In only his time with the Dodgers, Zack’s ERA+ is 132

    His ERA with the Dodgers is 2.68 for his time with them.

    His WHIP is 1.142

    Zack is 27 and 10 with the Dodgers.

    Yes, there are other good pitchers in the league, but when your rotation has Clayton heading it plus the stats Zack has put up the last two seasons basically behind Clayton’s, that’s tough to beat.

    • moogro - Jul 30, 2014 at 9:21 PM

      What’s with the silly CAPS?

  10. kingkershaw - Jul 30, 2014 at 7:36 PM

    Great, Ned had me worried there for a while. Keep these three and Kemp in right. Trade for Benoit and I’ll take this team against anyone. I still feel like they will get Price when he is a free agent though.

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