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Video: Billy Hamilton pulls off heads-up double play

Aug 20, 2014, 8:15 PM EDT

Watch as Reds outfielder Billy Hamilton pulls off a sensational double play Wednesday in St. Louis …

Jay Bruce clearly lost the ball in the sun and Jon Jay was around second base, so two runs likely would have scored if that thing dropped. Hamilton is the current favorite for National League Rookie of the Year.

  1. SocraticGadfly - Aug 20, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    Aided by totally believable dumb Cardinals baserunning.

    And shock me that it’s Jon Jay who got doubled off.

    I’ll say it again: With the trade of Freese, Jay’s the dumbest baserunner left on the team. And, not getting significantly smarter.

    And, I’ll say this again: Matheny apparently hasn’t learned much about coaching baserunning, as well as bullpens, so far.

    • mscxvd - Aug 20, 2014 at 8:39 PM

      yeah, Holliday makes some bad decisions on the bases too. makes me want to pull my hair out

      • SocraticGadfly - Aug 20, 2014 at 8:48 PM

        And, yes, we can blame Matheny for this. You can tell baserunners to pay more attention to their coaches, to have better general awareness, etc. And you can fine them, or make them run stairs at Busch, or whatever, if they don’t listen!

    • stlouis1baseball - Aug 21, 2014 at 11:00 AM

      U are forgetting about Taveras. That fiasco by him Tuesday night was perhaps the worst base running I have ever seen (save little league). On first…ball hit to left center and you try to go 1st to 3rd? Horrendous.

  2. SocraticGadfly - Aug 20, 2014 at 8:42 PM

    As for Hamilton? He’s stealing not only below 70 percent but below 65 percent, so he’s a definite detriment there. Low OBP, 4.5/1 K/BB rate. If it weren’t for his defense, and deGrom and Owings being on the IR, I certainly wouldn’t have him as the No. 1 ROY candidate.

    • genericcommenter - Aug 20, 2014 at 9:00 PM

      Well defense is part of the game. There are players at premium positions in the HOF solely for their defense.

      • SocraticGadfly - Aug 20, 2014 at 9:24 PM

        Oh, I’m not arguing against that. That said, he’s not (yet at least) Andruw Jones or Jim Edmonds on the defensive side, either. Can he get better yet offensively? We’ll see.

        Maybe he needs like Whitey did with Ozzie after he came to St. Louis … fines for flies, bonues for grounders. Maybe that would cut the K rate.

        As for the out stealing rate? Speed alone, no matter how fast you are, just gets you so far. The Reds need to find somebody who can actually coach him on this.

        Because right now, below 70 percent success, per all the major Runs Created formulas, he’s hurting his team with bad base-stealing.

        And, that’s another sad result (as is the Cards’ baserunning stupidity) of the three true outcomes.

      • genericcommenter - Aug 20, 2014 at 11:15 PM

        Good points, all.

    • JuniorGriffey'sRecliner - Aug 20, 2014 at 9:09 PM

      If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.

      Billy is the #1 candidate.

      • SocraticGadfly - Aug 20, 2014 at 9:20 PM

        I checked. She does. She is.

    • jm91rs - Aug 20, 2014 at 10:00 PM

      Hamilton will steal less bases at a higher rate. He’s ready doing better over the last month. Imagine swiping any base you ever wanted all your life, it’s going to take a little while to see that’s it’s harder in the big leagues. He’ll figure it out, and as the fastest man in baseball he’ll get better.

  3. miguelcairo - Aug 21, 2014 at 9:49 AM

    Shades of Griffey Jr.

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