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Twins GM on manager Ron Gardenhire: “He’ll be back”

Aug 22, 2014, 11:19 AM EDT

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Researching managerial numbers can be a little tricky, but as far as I can tell the only manager since 1960 to have four consecutive 90-loss seasons and keep his job is Tom Kelly of the Twins in the 1990s.

And now the guy who replaced him as Twins manager, Ron Gardenhire, may be joining him on that exclusive list.

Minnesota has lost 95-plus games in three straight seasons and the Twins are on pace to lose 90 this year, but general manager Terry Ryan indicated to Sid Hartman of the Minneapolis Star Tribune that Gardenhire will be back in 2015.

Here’s the exchange between Hartman and Ryan:

What about Gardenhire?

“Same stuff. He is signed for next year, so you don’t have to worry about him.”

He’ll be back?

“Yeah, yeah, I would say he’ll be back,” Ryan said.

Does Ryan think Gardenhire has done a good job this season with a struggling Twins club?

“We can all do better,” Ryan said. “We’re not where we need to be. We can all do a better job. He has to, I have to, as an organization, we all have to. We’re just not playing up to what we’re wishing we were, consequently we’re not playing games that mean much in September.”

Ryan is the same GM who kept Kelly around and the Twins are known for their incredible loyalty, for better or worse, so it certainly shouldn’t shock anyone in Minnesota if Gardenhire sticks around.

Still, if the Twins retain two managers following four consecutive 90-loss seasons and the other 29 teams have done the same a combined zero times in 50-plus years … well, plenty of Twins fans won’t be very happy and it’ll be hard to blame them.

  1. bisonaudit - Aug 22, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    It will be easy to blame them. This is how the Twins roll. Kelly took over in 1986 just as the team was getting good again. He stayed through the swoon and then handed a good team to Gardy. I wouldn’t be shocked if we see the same thing again.

  2. lbeezyse - Aug 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    This is why the Twins are doomed to mediocrity. The country clubhouse attitude needs to end. Target Field is getting emptier and emptier by the day. They refuse to call up their young talent & continue to sign players off the dumpster heap. From Ryan to Gardy, almost all of the stafff should be shown the door. This franchise desperately needs a shot in the arm or they’re doomed to be cellar dwellers for the foreseeable future

  3. nsauser - Aug 22, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    Why would Gardy want to stay? Is mediocrity a virus in Minnesota pro and college sports?

    • zzalapski - Aug 22, 2014 at 12:26 PM

      Why wouldn’t he? Where else can he make so much money for doing so little work?

  4. dluxxx - Aug 22, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    I get the feeling that Gardy may pull a Tom Kelly and retire. The last few seasons have been pretty hard on him, and you can see the physical toll that the consecutive losing seasons have had on him. I’m not saying that him coming back isn’t possible, because we all know how the Twins roll, but at the same time, why would he want to come back and continue to take this abuse?

  5. moogro - Aug 22, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    The mind control in Minnesota has to be lived to be believed.

    • bisonaudit - Aug 22, 2014 at 1:20 PM

      That must be why everyone hates Joe Mauer.

    • happytwinsfan - Aug 22, 2014 at 5:11 PM

      (unable to resist robot dance impulse

  6. SocraticGadfly - Aug 22, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    Kendrys Morales is available.

  7. twinfan24 - Aug 22, 2014 at 1:06 PM

    I wish they would make him dump pitching coach Rick Anderson. Young pitchers do not seem to develop for the Twins at the major league level. Rick may be a nice guy, but he isn’t getting the job done. They dropped or moved almost all of the other coaches within the last two years, but Anderson has been untouchable.

    • unclemosesgreen - Aug 22, 2014 at 3:20 PM

      I think the pitching issues stem more from 10 years of drafting only Brad Radke clones.

    • kopy - Aug 22, 2014 at 4:27 PM

      How do you figure? The Twins don’t have young pitchers at the major league level. They don’t call them up. Johan Santana, Francisco Liriano, and Matt Garza developed for Anderson quite nicely. Kyle Gibson currently has a 3.73 FIP. It’s not fair to fault him not developing the carousel of Kris Johnson, Yohan Pino, etc. Those guys aren’t prospects, or young. Even Sam Deduno is 30.

      Rick Anderson doesn’t have anybody to develop. He spends his time with a mixed bag of vets. To be honest, I can’t think of anyone Anderson “failed” with who had success elsewhere. Grant Balfour?

      • victoreviking - Aug 24, 2014 at 7:40 PM

        Vance Worley?

    • brewcrewchamps - Aug 23, 2014 at 2:43 AM

      It’s not only young pitchers they cannot develop, they can’t develop ANY young players

  8. happytwinsfan - Aug 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    The exact wording of the quote sounds to me like he’s hedging a little. It’s not the usual perfunctory “we have full confidence…” thing. With there still being better than a month to go in the season, even if he had decided or was leaning towards replacing Gardenhire, he’s not going to say anymore than he did.

    Still all in all I’d put the odds of him returning at least 60 – 40. If he does go we need someone equally capable of entertaining ejections. To bad Billy Martin’s still not around.

  9. joeyashwi - Aug 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    They get their new stadium and proceed to sign NOBODY!!!! Oh, I’m sorry, they signed the most injury prone player in the league to a huge deal and got rid of the rest of the team. The whole reason they wanted their stadium was to be able to afford to be competitive. Pohlads are liars and crooks and the Twins fan base as well as the whole state has been snookered!!!!

  10. papacrick - Aug 22, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    It wasn’t that long ago when the Twins were the only good team in Central and since the Tigers resurgence they’ve completely fallen off with no sign of coming back. Now the Royals may do to the Tigers what they had done to the Twins

    • bisonaudit - Aug 22, 2014 at 2:51 PM

      If you don’t think there are any signs of coming back, you’re not paying attention.

  11. ThatGuy - Aug 22, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    Gardenhire can only manage the guys Terry Ryan gets for him. He’s the same manager that won manager of the year, and his numerous top finishes.

    If Ryan fires Gardenhire, he should have to step down as well for not providing him with the talent to compete. Its not like there has been a plethora of talent that’s going to waste.

  12. drewsylvania - Aug 22, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    The org just doesn’t care if they win or lose.

  13. sportsfan18 - Aug 22, 2014 at 6:34 PM

    Let’s think for all of 3 seconds about this…

    When he had talent, he WON with the talent.

    Now, NOT all managers win when they have talent.

    But, ALL managers lose when they don’t have talent…

    Keeping Gardy is smart… improving the talent on the roster would be smarter though

  14. homegrowntalentmn - Aug 22, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    Means rick anderson will be around next year… ugh

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