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Giancarlo Stanton on the Marlins success: “Five months doesn’t change five years”

Aug 26, 2014, 8:23 AM EDT

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Tim Brown of Yahoo Sports has a report about Giancarlo Stanton and the Miami Marlins. A report that may make folks in Miami a tad upset while warming the hearts of the folks in Boston and anywhere else where the local team is willing to spend nine figures on top talent.

He recounts how the Marlins, despite multiple teardowns, fan apathy and the expectation by some that they’d lose a LOT of games this year, are still very much in the playoff hunt. Then he asked Stanton whether the changed vibe in Miami has him thinking he’d like to stay around for the long haul:

The question was whether the events of this season had altered his top-down view of the organization. He’d raised his eyes, thinking.

“Five months,” he said, “doesn’t change five years.”

Stanton is a free agent in two years and he’s going to have a couple of hefty arbitration awards before then. Jeff Loria has never shown that he’ll commit to a large payroll or even a top-of-the-market contract for a top-of-the-market player. Stanton is well aware of this and one has to assume he’s not eager to sign a big contract only to see his team’s owner gut the franchise around him.

If I’m Stanton, I wait and see too.

  1. gattaga72 - Aug 26, 2014 at 8:32 AM

    Welcome to the LA Dodgers Mr. Stanton

    • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2014 at 9:49 AM

      You got a lot of thumbs down but based on everything the Iron Giant has ever said – especially since the debacle of 2012 – I suspect that you’re exactly right. He wants to be home, he wants to be with his family, and underneath it all, there’s not much doubt that he wants to play for the team he grew up rooting for, and being intelligent and literate, he knows he can be there with just a tad of patience.

      • dan1111 - Aug 26, 2014 at 10:25 AM

        I believe you that he wants to play on the West Coast. But I also believe that when it comes down to it, it’s hard to turn down millions of dollars. We may think there’s no difference between, say, $300,000,000 and $330,000,000, but that’s because we’ve never come remotely close to having to make such a decision. In fact, there is a really big difference there. Even if you are not a greedy person, is it really so easy to say no to that much money? You could do a lot of good for the cause of your choice with that.

        Which is all a long way of saying, I don’t place a huge amount of weight on Stanton’s California preference. And I doubt that teams who want him will, either.

      • groupofsevenrules - Aug 26, 2014 at 10:39 AM

        Stanton, unlike many of the other big splurge free agents, has made it very clear where he wants to be, so the argument that the biggest offer takes him probably isn’t as sure fire in his case as it was for Pujols, Fielder, Cano or Hamilton. I doubt if any of the other teams want to embroil themselves in what could quickly become a ruinous bidding war for him, especially knowing that he is most likely just leveraging their efforts to pull the biggest price he can out of Anaheim or LA. If you will recall in the 2011-2012 off season Pujols played the Marlins like those old cat’s cradle yo yo tricks we learned as kids and presto, he got that ridiculous offer from the Angels. If the Dodgers think they’ve got the best shot at him they’ll make the biggest offer anyway, so the issue is probably moot.

      • asimonetti88 - Aug 26, 2014 at 11:11 AM

        Well it’s not like the Dodgers and Angels are penny pinchers. It is very likely the highest contract offer could come from sunny Southern California.

  2. irishlad19 - Aug 26, 2014 at 8:35 AM

    If he keeps producing, when he comes on the market, whether for Trading or FA, he may set a new high for MLB.
    The wealthy teams and those with trade bait are salivating!

  3. phillyrox - Aug 26, 2014 at 8:35 AM

    This guy will be a Phillie. Bet on it.

    • zengreaser - Aug 26, 2014 at 9:20 AM

      Unlikely. The Marlins aren’t going to let him walk away in Free Agency. He’ll be dealt to another team for a significant haul of prospects. The Phillies definitely have the payroll flexibility to have him, but they don’t have the prospects it would take to pull off that kind of deal. Oh how I wish they could though.

    • carpi2 - Aug 26, 2014 at 9:23 AM

      That all depends on when Stanton changes teams. The Phillies only realistic shot hinges on if, by some type of miracle, the Marlins retain Stanton through his 2 arbitration years. However, I doubt Stanton finishes out 2015 in a Marlins uniform. Unfortunately, our Phillies will miss the boat on Stanton. On the bright side, we have Howard signed through 2016 (There should be a designated sarcasm font)!! And, if RAJ remains as the GM, I bet we will also pickup his 2017 option!

    • thebadguyswon - Aug 26, 2014 at 9:46 AM

      Gladly. What are terms?

    • Paper Lions - Aug 26, 2014 at 10:07 AM

      Yeah, probably, but not until about 2026.

    • kevinbnyc - Aug 26, 2014 at 12:52 PM

      He’s 24, not 44.

  4. southpaw2k - Aug 26, 2014 at 8:39 AM

    He’ll be, what, 27 when he hits free agency?

    I don’t think it’s crazy to think he’d be offered a 10-year deal worth nearly $300 million.

  5. jikkyjeff - Aug 26, 2014 at 8:49 AM

    As a Marlins fan it pains me to say this, but if there really is no shot at him coming back then i say find the best deal now and focus on keeping Jose and the rest of that young pitching staff. If the rumors are true that the Dodgers would part with Seager, Pederson and Urias, i’d take that plus a little bit more. There is no doubt Giancarlo is worth a HUGE contract, but we all know Loria won’t spend that kind of money.

    My other fear would be he does open up the wallet and spend $300 million, but then can’t afford to keep any of the other young guys around him like Yellich, Ozuna, and the young pitchers.

    Its going to be an interesting offseason for Fish Fans, but i just hope talks of contract talks not going well doesn’t ruin Stanton’s trade value. I guess we’ll enjoy his services while we can, and i hope we get more than a draft pick for him when he leaves.

    • dondada10 - Aug 26, 2014 at 10:08 AM

      That would be quite a haul. Only thing is it would probably require the Dodgers shedding another outfielder, as well.

    • geejon - Aug 26, 2014 at 11:36 AM

      Marlins won’t be getting get Pederson, Urias and Seager (nevermind “plus a little bit more”) so no need to fantasize about those “rumors”.

      Stanton will obviously be dealt by the Marlins if he doesn’t agree to an extension, which he won’t, but I don’t see him agreeing to an extension with whatever team trades for him when he’d be so close to free agency. He very well might end up a Dodger, but it will be as a free agent signing the winter of ’16.

    • jrbdmb - Aug 26, 2014 at 12:14 PM

      Loria will trade Stanton well before he hits free agency. I think it is quite possible he gets traded this winter. And Stanton is one of the few players who might be able to pry some combo of Pederson / Urias / Seager from the Dodgers (Dodgers could throw in one of their suplus OFs as well).

  6. philliesblow - Aug 26, 2014 at 8:49 AM

    Miguel Cabrera 2008, Anibal Sanchez 2012…. 2016 will be right on schedule for Dombrowski to send some prospects to the Marlins.

    • Paper Lions - Aug 26, 2014 at 10:07 AM

      What prospects?

      • historiophiliac - Aug 26, 2014 at 10:56 AM

        Hey!

  7. trbmb - Aug 26, 2014 at 9:12 AM

    Or sit tight and wait for Cashboy to execute his only skill.

  8. thebadguyswon - Aug 26, 2014 at 9:13 AM

    I’d love for the Mets to get him, but I’m sure there’s no chance Miami trades within the division. My guess is a team like Texas, which a bunch of young talent, will end up with him. There’s a lot of sense in a Profar, Mazara, Jackson for Stanton trade.

    • dondada10 - Aug 26, 2014 at 10:09 AM

      Would you do: Syndergaard, Wheeler, Nimmo and Dilson Herrera?

      • thebadguyswon - Aug 26, 2014 at 10:14 AM

        Yeah, I just don’t think Miami wants to see Stanton in their building nine times a year.

      • asimonetti88 - Aug 26, 2014 at 11:14 AM

        You’re assuming that Miami cares about winning.

      • American of African Descent - Aug 26, 2014 at 2:47 PM

        The Mets don’t deal Syndergaard and Wheeler for Stanton. One or the other, plus some other pieces, but not both.

    • beefytrout - Aug 26, 2014 at 10:25 AM

      I do that deal yesterday.

  9. Old Gator - Aug 26, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    Everyone really needs to keep in mind that the Iron Giant has made it clear he wants to be back home in California. He’s never said this in so many words but he has widely inscribed plenty of lines between which the pensive man may read without detaching his retina. Yesterday, he was quoted in the Macondo Feeshwrapper that whereas it was trez cool to be going head to head with Mike Trout, “it wasn’t like I circled it on the calendar or anything. What I was most looking forward to was seeing my family.” He also reminisced about being a kid hanging out at Chavez Ravine and Angels Stadium (he was a big Dodger fan as a kid but enjoyed the lack of concern the Anaheim stadium security demonstrated about moving down to the empty better seats).

    Stuff like that, combined with stuff like the comment nucleating this post, send a message as clear as samizdat. And part of the message to teams like, oh, Boston, Detroit, Nyorc or Texas, is quite plainly, “don’t give up too big a haul for me because I won’t be hanging around any longer than I have to.” It’s another way of squeezing Scrooge McLoria and his front orifice by subtly discouraging non sunset-side teams from putting up the premium goods that the Feesh would want for him, and tilting the odds in favor of the west coast teams he would want to join. This guy is nobody’s fool. He knows that Arte Moreno or the Dodgers would see the Baby Steinbrenners, John Henry’s hammer or Mike Illich’s nine figures and raise them all a figure to land him.

    Moreover, Craigster, only the intensely clueless among the Feesh fans here in Macondo, or perhaps the totally clueless ones in places like, oh, Massachusetts, have expected the Iron Giant to become a long term fixture here. Nobody here with minds in their brains would be the least bit surprised at this point that the Giant said what he did yesterday. He’s been transmitting on that frequency since the dismantling our wretched penurious bloodsucker of an owner promised wouldn’t happen, happened. The sentient among us have been well and truly resigned to the inevitable for some time now, so we’re just enjoying the hell out of him while we’ve got him.

    • jikkyjeff - Aug 26, 2014 at 10:46 AM

      I agree with you, i don’t think Giancarlo has ever indicated with any sincerity that he wants to stay. I think he’s putting on a good front for other teams so he’s not thought of as a “bad apple”. I think the front office would be smart (not that i’m holding my breathe on that) to trade him now. He’s value will never be higher, and while you have a good point that teams can wait him out as opposed to trading a premium for him, how many will wait that long? I really don’t want negotiations to go bad and the Marlins be forced to trade him and have teams know that. The ultimate let down would be seeing him walk and only getting a draft pick back for him.

      Just don’t trade him to Detroit, we always get screwed in trades with them! I’m 100% with you though, i’ll enjoy every minute of him while he’s here. And in no way will have any ill feelings towards him. He’s done everything we could ask for, just to bad our front office isn’t concerned with actually trying.

  10. Uncle Charlie - Aug 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM

  11. futilephish - Aug 26, 2014 at 9:50 PM

    I hate to say it
    The Yankees will snap him up
    150 homers at 24 , jeez
    Good luck
    Signed marlins fan

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