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Report: Ryne Sandberg was “ticked off” at Cole Hamels

Aug 28, 2014, 12:16 PM EST

Ryne Sandberg AP

Four players (Cole Hamels, Domonic Brown, David Buchanan, and Kyle Kendrick) have publicly criticized and/or disrespected Phillies manager Ryne Sandberg this month, but the skipper in his first full season insists it’s “not a big deal.”

In particular Sandberg tried to downplay Hamels leaving the mound before the manager got there to remove him during Tuesday’s game and then giving non-answers to reporters about the removal after 84 pitches, telling Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com:

You know what, I gave him a verbal when I was about six feet from the grass, “Hey, we’re going to pick you up right here, Cole. Nice job.” So he thought that that was the release to let him go. I just clarified that with him. He was upset about the home run.

However, according to Salisbury “a person with knowledge of the situation said Sandberg was ticked off by what Hamels did.”

Philadelphia’s roster has a lot of veteran players who experienced a whole lot of success with the previous manager, Charlie Manuel, so being in last place with a near-rookie manager in a recipe for issues. That doesn’t preclude Sandberg from making things worse with his actions, of course, and at some point having near-daily meetings with players about their disrespecting the manager will be tough to brush off.

  1. pbastille - Aug 28, 2014 at 12:37 PM

    Aretha Sandberg

  2. brewcrewfan54 - Aug 28, 2014 at 12:45 PM

    Guys like Utley and Rollins aren’t talking or acting disrespectful towards Sandberg. those guys have even been around longer than these younger complainers have. Sandberg may or may not be a good manager, I have no idea, but professionalism is a 2 way street.

    • jgillmeister - Aug 28, 2014 at 12:48 PM

      Utley and Rollins aren’t the ones complaining. I expected more from Hamels. The other three haven’t done anything to give them the right to beef.

      • brewcrewfan54 - Aug 28, 2014 at 12:57 PM

        I know Utley and Rollins aren’t complaining. Thats what I’m saying. Two guys who have been around the longest aren’t saying anything so why are these young guys who’ve done very little in this game being disrespectful?

  3. jgillmeister - Aug 28, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    Everyone with any sense knows Sandberg was dealt a bad hand.
    These guys are supposed to be professionals. They should hang their egos in their lockers with their street clothes. In uniform all they should care about is winning. Ryne Sandberg knows as much as any of them about winning. Hamels etc. need to shut up, and let Sandberg do his job.

    • phisticuffs - Aug 28, 2014 at 12:54 PM

      As a nearly life long Cub (played 13 games for the Phils in his first season), I’m not sure that he knows much about winning. :)
      But I agree that the players need to STFU and play. This is a bad team, and before anyone starts pointing fingers elsewhere, look in the damn mirror first.

    • [citation needed] fka COPO - Aug 28, 2014 at 12:59 PM

      Ryne Sandberg knows as much as any of them about winning.

      What exactly did Sandberg win again?

      • Paper Lions - Aug 28, 2014 at 1:57 PM

        The race for America’s hearts between two equally talented and equally productive second basemen who played in mid-western cities during the same time frame.

      • mazblast - Aug 28, 2014 at 2:24 PM

        He won at least couple of division titles with the Cubs. I wish they had at least made the World Series so we wouldn’t still be listening to this “curse” BS.

      • chew1985 - Aug 28, 2014 at 8:22 PM

        He won the respect of everybody in the game. Everybody. But that’s not enough for fluffwhores like you.

    • freddiejlu8 - Aug 28, 2014 at 5:04 PM

      Charlie Manuel was dealt a bad hand.They fired him for running out the team that Ruben Amaro gave him. He knew what it takes to win and knows that Ruben didn’t give him enough talent to win, so he kept running them out there until Ruben fired him. I have a lot of respect for Charlie Manuel and what he did for the Phillies. They used him for a scape goat at the end. I hope he feels vindicated by the Phillies record this year. It just proves that it wasn’t the managers fault. It was the General Managers fault for not getting the talent to win.Who knows if Ryne Sandberg is a good manager? No one will until he gets enough talent to win more than 60 games. All we know now is IT WASN’T CHARLIES FAULT!!!!!

      • chew1985 - Aug 28, 2014 at 8:24 PM

        True. But Charlie should have taken the team further than he did in the winning seasons. He had a terrible grasp on when to pull starters and make pitching changes.

  4. SocraticGadfly - Aug 28, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    Aaron, can you get NBC’s crack staff to Photoshop Hamels doing a Joe Nathan style chin flip to Ryno?

  5. provguard - Aug 28, 2014 at 1:11 PM

    Too many prima donnas on the Phillies. It seems like they quit being a team a year ago…imo

  6. nolanwiffle - Aug 28, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    If I had to use one word to descibe this club’s future?

    Murky.

    • mazblast - Aug 28, 2014 at 2:25 PM

      At best. With little chance of improvement so long as Amaro keeps trying to put Band-Aids on a corpse.

  7. glink182 - Aug 28, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    He’s in the HOF. The only manager in the league who is in the HOF. 10x All-Star. 9x Gold Glove. 1x MVP. 17 years in MLB as a player. Pretty sure that = winning.

  8. ronmexicoaquafina - Aug 28, 2014 at 2:30 PM

    17 years in the league with only 3 winning seasons. Combined winning percentage of teams he played on was around .487

    Great player, but can’t say he knows much about winning.

    • jarathen - Aug 28, 2014 at 3:36 PM

      He did as much as his contemporaries to win; not his fault he wasn’t surrounded by players up to his level.

      Heck, this all means he knows LOSING, so maybe a team that’s LOSING could learn how to handle it from a guy who outplayed his teams more often than not.

    • therealtrenches - Aug 28, 2014 at 4:56 PM

      17 years of playing baseball at a level that Brown, Buchanan, and Kendrick will never touch.

      They’d do well to shut their punk mouths and listen to what he has to say.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Aug 28, 2014 at 7:41 PM

        We’re going to conveniently leave Hamels out of this right? The WS MVP? One of the best pitchers in baseball.

      • therealtrenches - Aug 28, 2014 at 9:51 PM

        @[citation needed]

        No, we’re leaving Hamels out because he was a well known pouty-faced sulker long before Ryno ever arrived. It doesn’t matter who’s managing him. He pouts when things don’t go his way, no matter how big the stage. (See the 09 NLCS, which the Phil’s won despite the cloud over his head).

        But we could leave him in and the point would still hold; Sandberg played top flight baseball for 17 years on his way to the HoF. On his way, he never showed his manager up once. Hamels is a nice pitcher with a lot of ability and a spotty career that wouldn’t get him to within 200 miles of Cooperstown if it continues as it has thus far. So he should also shut his punk mouth and show the guy some respect.

        Besides, his pouting that night was groundless. He had lost his stuff after only 84 pitches. He had just served a super dinger. That’s not Sandberg’s fault. All he was doing was his job. Ryno was right to yank him.

  9. dprusso01 - Aug 28, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    Sandburg does not hold players accountable for there actions on the field. Players keep making dumb plays and still keep playing. Really hard to watch anymore.

  10. Mikhel - Aug 28, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    Players need to shut up and deal with it, if they do not like Sandberg then ask to be traded, released or retire and forfeit the millions they are being paid.

    The players are signed to a contract to obey what their manager asks them to do, if a manager wants a pitcher to pinch run, pinch hit or play SS the pitcher has to do it, if he is concerned he might injure then there’s an issue with his training, not with the order.

    Then of course the GM/Front Office/Owners will be those who can judge if a manager did something wrong or not. Not the players, they are paid to play not to tell the manager what to do.

    Nowadays a lot of players do not train properly and are injury prone due to bad overall physical shape than years past (say 30 years) because they are more concerned about cashing in their millionaire checks than to prepare themselves properly. MLB is getting more and more populated by one-dimensional or two-dimensional players.

  11. ashoreinhawaii - Aug 28, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    Has there ever been a Hall of Fame player that was a very good manager?

  12. phillysoulfan - Aug 28, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    @jgillmeister

    Refresh my memory? Exactly what did Sanberg ever win? Cause I seem to recall Hamels not only winning a World Series but actually being the MVP of the series

  13. dakotaandotter - Aug 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    I don’t know enough about Ryno yet to say he’s doing a good or bad job but would be hesitant to put a hall of fame player into a managerial job. I hope he proves me wrong but I just think that type of person wouldn’t be a good fit.

    • hep3 - Aug 28, 2014 at 7:37 PM

      At least Sandberg was willing to go to the minors and learn the craft of managing. How many stars (Mattingly) or Hall of Famers (Babe Ruth) refused to go to the bushes to manage?

      Sandberg has been humble and willing to do what it takes to be a good manager.

  14. recoveringcubsfan - Aug 28, 2014 at 9:26 PM

    Ooh, yeah! Now the Phillies Phans are turning on Cole Hamels! Guess you can’t just brush off Hamelsnlike Brown, Buchanan, et al. Anyway, pass the popcorn and…please proceed, governor.

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