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Manny being Manny. Which, these days, means Manny being a great coach and mentor.

Sep 1, 2014, 3:15 PM EDT

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Ken Rosenthal has a story up about Manny Ramirez’s summer in Iowa, where the Cubs employed him as a once-a-week player but, in reality, a second hitting coach for some of the organization’s top hitting prospects like Javier Baez, Kris Bryant and Jorge Soler. It was a productive and eye-opening summer. Here’s a story about Manny reporting back to Theo Epstein about the Cubs’ minor leaguers:

Ramirez, speaking on the phone to Epstein, broke down every player on the Iowa roster, giving detailed, sophisticated assessments of not only their skills but also their personalities.

Epstein found the conversation so impressive and surprising that he left his office immediately after getting off the phone with Ramirez and walked down the hall to visit with other Cubs executives.

He had to repeat the conversation verbatim to his colleagues to make sure that it had really happened.

There are other stories in there too which show that, a few years after his multiple drug suspensions and various jackwagony acts, he’s a new, far more mature man than he used to be.

Manny wants to play in the bigs again. That’s not going to happen. He says he hasn’t thought about a full-time coaching career. Based on what Rosenthal reports here, that could very easily happen if Manny wants it to be.

  1. irishlad19 - Sep 1, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    He’s an accident waiting to happen.
    Needs to act like an adult for a lot more than one summer before anyone should put trust in him.

    • sportsfan18 - Sep 1, 2014 at 4:36 PM

      well they weren’t going to make him their big league manager after just this one summer so you don’t have to worry there sir…

      sounds like he did more than what they expected and that’s always a good thing.

      so maybe they’ll have him coach more next season, in spring training and then maybe as the actual hitting coach somewhere.

      who knows, time will tell. it would take years before he could climb up in the ranks in coaching.

      • slappymcknucklepunch - Sep 1, 2014 at 7:39 PM

        He would be a great hitting coach for anybody,but especially Spanish speaking players.Much more nuance if you speak the language. The man is one of the best hitters this generation,and he compares quite well in any generation.

  2. gerard33 - Sep 1, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    Never was stupid.

    • sportsfan18 - Sep 1, 2014 at 6:51 PM

      No, he wasn’t stupid.

      But he lost touch with reality somewhat.

      Way back when he was on the Indians, he had a chance to buy a Harley-Davidson motorcycle and he asked a sportswriter for $60,000 grand right there on the spot.

      He really thought the sports writer would have it.

      Manny told the guy he would pay him back and that he was good for it.

      Manny ACTUALLY thought a normal citizen could just give him like $60K on the spot…

      When the dude couldn’t, Manny was miffed and that’s when he said he’d pay him back and that he was good for it, like THAT was the only issue preventing the writer from giving him the money.

      So while not stupid, he was out of touch lets say…

      • sportsfan18 - Sep 1, 2014 at 7:00 PM

        That story is in the book entitled “Becoming Manny” by the way folks…

        Sorry, more fun tidbits about Manny being Manny.

        “At one point during the multi-year process of writing the biography of Manny Ramirez, the Los Angeles Dodgers slugger forgot the book existed, telling his new agent he’d never heard of these people claiming to be his biographers. “This was like three years into the project,” says author Jean Rhodes, a professor of psychology at UMass-Boston. “At this point we had already met with him and his family many times. He forgot all about it.”

        Again, this doesn’t mean he was stupid… but he wasn’t quite with it all the way either…

      • slappymcknucklepunch - Sep 1, 2014 at 7:47 PM

        That is what happens when you have so much money you have assistants for everything.I still think Elder Bush being amazed that they had scanners at supermarkets was his undoing in his re-election bid.Like he thought it would be some old grizzled guy with a see through green visor licking his pencil while he adjusted the ledger on an abacus.

        Obviously in Manny’s case,that does not apply.Manny is/was/forever more naive.

      • sportsfan18 - Sep 1, 2014 at 9:14 PM

        slappy,

        right on, I remember being amazed that Papa Bush had no clue about scanners at grocery stores…

        then again when you run the CIA, are VP and President, you don’t go grocery shopping either.. but still, like you said, how’d he expect them to ring it up?

        maybe he thought it went like this…

        check out girl to the pres… that looks like a $17 dollar bundle of grapes Meester Pres.

        check out girl to the pres… that looks like a 14 lb chicken and it’s $19.99 a lb today, lucky for you it’s still on sale today sir.

        When the pres leaves, the checkout girl takes all the extra money she overcharged the multi millionaire president…

        pres walks out after spending “only” like $150 bucks on food that should have cost $50 bucks and he’s thinking it’s damn cheap… says his breakfast at the White House ran about $150 alone each morning…

      • tashkalucy - Sep 1, 2014 at 10:49 PM

        Harley-Davidson motorcycles don’t cost $60k. Now.

        When Manny was with the Indians they cost 65-70% of what they cost today.

      • largebill - Sep 2, 2014 at 11:33 PM

        Shows the pervasive affect of a media generated story that people are naively still repeating the Bush amazed at grocery scanners story. Politicians are taken to lots of places and often politely show interest in things that are not that interesting. A wise man once said “A lie told once becomes truth to those unable to think for themselves.”

        http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/2008/08/the-bush-41-gro.html

  3. neoshweaty - Sep 1, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    He always seemed like a person that just understood the game on a fundamental level, at least on the hitting side of things. He just always seemed so collected and in charge of most of his at bats in the bigs. I’m glad that he’s been able to realize that he has a skill that he specifically can teach and tell others about. It’s always interesting watching how athlete’s transition to post-game life. I wish Manny all the success in the word.

    • recoveringcubsfan - Sep 1, 2014 at 5:43 PM

      Always liked him – found Manny to be funny and to take a lot of joy in the game and in life. Sadly, most of his peers and critics are mirthless wieners, it seemed at the time. Also hope he finds a place in the game after his playing days are through.

      • sportsfan18 - Sep 1, 2014 at 6:46 PM

        I liked him until I found out that he pushed down/over some traveling team secretary.

        No need for that.

        The man could hit of course, but he wasn’t a saint.

      • jerze2387 - Sep 1, 2014 at 6:51 PM

        @sportsfan18 my understanding is george costanza had a lot of fault in that particular matter

      • sportsfan18 - Sep 1, 2014 at 9:19 PM

        @ jerze

        Manny wanted more free tickets to games for friends and family…

        he wasn’t getting as many free tickets as he wanted and he got mad at the guy and knocked him down…

        not exactly classy. especially when he was playing on a $160 million dollar contract…

        poor man, there are only so many seats in Fenway, it isn’t a huge park. other players, executives etc…

        Manny was an incredible hitter, one of the all time best. but he didn’t work on his fielding/defense. he didn’t always hustle or run out grounders etc…

        folks talk of him having a great work ethic. he did, but ONLY for hitting.

        he didn’t take or use that great work ethic on other parts of his game.

        he was smart enough to know and realize that hitting got folks paid…

        he made the 3rd MOST money in the history of the game so far, only behind Arod and Jeter.

        Yet, Manny’s game was NOT well rounded. He could hit, both for power and average, but the other 3 tools of the 5 tool player were lacking.

        So a 2 tool player made the 3rd most money ever…

        he got the last laugh…

  4. radiantbeans - Sep 1, 2014 at 6:01 PM

    Manny was a true hitting savant. With brilliance in one area come deficiencies in another. His maturity level will always be questionable, but asking him to show up once a week (or at his leisure) to evaluate hitters is right up his alley and something he can probably do better than most.

  5. tashkalucy - Sep 1, 2014 at 10:51 PM

    Manny was trained by Charlie Manuel and was always a smart hitter.

    I’d have hired him as a batting coach years ago. Epstein and Cub fans are going to reap the benefits.

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  7. kevb62 - Sep 2, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    I definitely hope the Cubs retain Manny as their Triple-A hitting coach. Let him play a game here and there, but let him just focus as much on coaching these kids as possible.

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