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The Tigers’ Venezuelan players are united

Feb 21, 2014, 9:44 AM EDT

It’s getting ugly and scary in Venezuela. People have taken to the streets leading to deadly clashes between protesters and police. Watching such things from the United States has to be difficult for Venezuelan players.

Omar Vizquel and the Tigers’ Venezuelan players tweeted out this pic in solidarity this morning:

Historically, not all Venezuelan players have fallen on the same side of the recent, prevalent political debates which we hear about in the United States. But now that violence is gripping their homeland, you have to figure that those differences seem secondary.

  1. bolweevils2 - Feb 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    In solidarity on which side? Are they with the protesters or the government?

    • spursareold - Feb 21, 2014 at 9:57 AM

      Look at the small flag in the back, and the SOS written on it. That should be your clue.

      • tywebb76 - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:09 AM

        That is not entirely true. Former tiger Magglio Ordonez was a very vocal supporter of Chavez and his regime. In the elections following Chavez’ death he was elected mayor of his hometown representing the same ticket and having the support of Nicholas Maduro. Many of these guys are great friends with Magglio Ordonez.

        It is Good to see our boys united in support of their home, but I am curious on which side their support actually falls.

      • Francisco (FC) - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:39 AM

        Is Magglio somewhere in that picture?

    • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2014 at 11:29 AM

      Perhaps the point is that whichever side they are on, they are together in their concern for their fellow citizens back home and thinking of them. They are all Venezuelan — and that’s some thinking we could use in this country.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2014 at 5:05 PM

        ya nadie puede opinar si apoyas a uno te atacan otros y viceversa y si eres neutral no eres venezolano. Que triste realidad.— Miguel Cabrera (@MiguelCabrera) February 21, 2014

  2. sportsdrenched - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:09 AM

    I was wondering since I read at this very website that Magglio Ordonez was elected Mayor of a town as a Socialist.

  3. chunkala - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    Eff Venezuela

    • nategearhart - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:39 AM

      Eff you

    • karlkolchak - Feb 21, 2014 at 12:05 PM

      Hey, dingbat, do you have any idea how much U.S. gas prices would rise if Venezuela took that insult personally and stopped selling us their oil? By quite a lot.

      • DJ MC - Feb 21, 2014 at 12:44 PM

        That’s very true, and the commenter above is a dingbat, but on the other hand how fast would their country run out of money if they stopped selling us their oil? That goes both ways.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2014 at 1:09 PM

        I think they sell more to China now than to us, so… I think they could find eager buyers somewhere.

  4. happytwinsfan - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    when a sizable minority rebels against the bad governance mandated by the majority through a democratic process, it’s hard to be on either side.

    • Francisco (FC) - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:42 AM

      50.6 to 49.1, they’re basically the same size. In any other country that would have been a wake up call that power needed to be shared in order to have social peace and a more inclusive government that heard both sides of the story. The government is acting like it won the elections in a landslide and people who don’t like it should just suck it up.

      In any case Democracy is all about respecting and protecting minority views to precisely avoid the tyranny of the majority.

      • happytwinsfan - Feb 21, 2014 at 11:24 AM

        previous elections involving Chavez, a much more gifted politician then the current guy, had bigger margins.

        democracy is about respecting minority views, but is also about respecting elections results, especially when your side loses. Chavez’s supporters argue that their opposition consists of a self entitled oligarchy wishing to retain their undeserved privileges and property.

        there’s a lot hooey in their thinking but there is also some truth to it. the same thing seems to be going on in Thailand where the disdain for the less affluent minority by the more affluent is even more pronounced.

      • Francisco (FC) - Feb 21, 2014 at 11:34 AM

        There’s a lot of hooey in both sides but to my mind there’s never been any doubt regarding who actually resorts to violence.

      • happytwinsfan - Feb 21, 2014 at 11:33 AM

        “less affluent majority”

      • Francisco (FC) - Feb 21, 2014 at 11:46 AM

        Also, I’ve long since stopped considering Venezuela a Democracy. To my mind one very important consideration is: can the opposing party reasonably gain office? Or conditions fair? Is there alternability to ensure all sides can have their concerns addressed?

        The current set of thugs in charge have made it their mission to stack the deck as much as possible to ensure the other side can’t EVER gain real power. Of course they pay lip service to the whole thing but when it doesn’t suit them they rapidly go into action: did a set of Governers unexpectedly win an election they thought they had in the bag? Cut off finanicing from the central government and transfer airport and port management to the central government. The other side won the metro area mayoralty? No problem, netuer its powers, declare a new government zone and appoint government crony. And so on.

      • Francisco (FC) - Feb 21, 2014 at 11:37 AM

        Also the bigger margins were also due in large part to the petro-checkbook. The current government is in deep financial doodoo, scarcity and inflation are out of control so to me it’s no really surprising that election results were more balanced recently. The exceptions are local municipal elections, that depends entirely on who mobilizes their base better.

      • happytwinsfan - Feb 21, 2014 at 12:35 PM

        like most democracies, including maybe our own, it’s a kinda sort of democracy. to add to your other points, the country’s been run down by extreme populism, incompetence and corruption and now to make things worse they’re at each other’s throats.

        thinking about it sure does make the faults of where we live easier to swallow.

      • Francisco (FC) - Feb 21, 2014 at 1:14 PM

        Yes, no system is perfect, but it’s no reason to let it break down completely! Maybe all those #FirstWorldProblems we see and have are important to address so they don’t degenerate into #ThirdWorldProblems. BTW remind me again which one was the second world?

      • yahmule - Feb 22, 2014 at 12:29 PM

        This sounds like what Republicans have been trying to accomplish in Michigan for the last several years.

  5. hojo20 - Feb 21, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    We’re in the USA, translation, please?

    • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2014 at 1:18 PM

      See, you could ask someone to help you out with the translation as a favor without injecting any tinge of xenophobia into your request. They might be more inclined to help you then as well. FYI, we do not have an official language in the US and there is a reason for that. Bilingualism is an asset in business, btw.

      • gothapotamus90210 - Feb 21, 2014 at 1:38 PM

        “Sure, I’ve been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I’m not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren’t as good. That used to be called patriotism. ” -Kenny Powers

      • hojo20 - Feb 21, 2014 at 1:52 PM

        Well this blog is in English and the Tweet & posters are in Spanish (or whatever), so I need some help, Por Favor.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2014 at 2:28 PM

        Literally: from here all united for Venezuela

        And my Gringo stinks, for the record.

  6. gothapotamus90210 - Feb 21, 2014 at 1:07 PM

    Jose Mesa needs to hit Vizquel again.

  7. musketmaniac - Feb 21, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    History, I never thought of you as a dreamer. The first time this country bands together will be right after it gets tore in half. Too much differences too much hate Venezuela has a bigger chance if uniting.

    • happytwinsfan - Feb 21, 2014 at 3:23 PM

      anybody who wants to leave america may do so anytime they want. they just won’t be taking any american soil with them.

    • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2014 at 4:55 PM

      I wish I could say you were right about us uniting, but we’ve been torn in half before and we seem to have re-split. I don’t know what the answer is.

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